1400 Owners Life Today ( The 'What did you do today?' thread)

[Daytona]

No sweaty,Tret mesen is Yorkshire slang for I've treat myself to this,I shall be picking it up on the first of March which is when new registrations start for 2019 bikes,I think it will look good beside my 14,

[Kiwifruit]

Very nice Daytona, very nice !! 

But how come 1st of January 2019 isn't 2019................. is 29th February 2020 which comes around every four years 2016 or still 2019 or really 2020

[Tony Nitrous]

Today I put in some garden edging.

Never one to do anything in moderation if I can get carried away and do a stupid version, I bought a heap of treated hardwood sleepers and a heap of bags of concrete. Then I spent several hours in the blazing midday sun digging slots to fit them three quarters below ground, and concreted them in.

Fed up with the hens dragging stuff onto the lawn and not being able to do the edges with the whipper snipper and lawn mower.

Overkill for the win, but not for my health or bank account.

[Daytona]

Good point there col ,basically if I had the new bike registered before 1st of March 2019 it goes down as a 68 plate,but after 1st of March it will be on a 19 registration plate,it's just another stupid way that this country does things,,,,I'm sure Dave,gsx barmy has explained this strange way we do it in the uk somewhere on the forum before,,,,,so basically col a person would say that's a 2018 bike when really it's a 2019 bike ?...??.come in Dave ,please.

[grog]

Daytona, very weird, i dont understand at all.

[Daytona]

I'm sure someone will come along soon grog to try to explain.

[shanered6]

we basically have two new registration points a year 1st march and 1st october it was ment to help with new car sales .

[Mick_J]

In reality it does not make much difference to the trade but there are often good deals on bikes at the registration point as dealers try harder to hit sales targets.  I got a grand off my beemer by having a 17 reg and not a 67 reg.

[gsxbarmy]

Good point there col ,basically if I had the new bike registered before 1st of March 2019 it goes down as a 68 plate,but after 1st of March it will be on a 19 registration plate,it's just another stupid way that this country does things,,,,I'm sure Dave,gsx barmy has explained this strange way we do it in the uk somewhere on the forum before,,,,,so basically col a person would say that's a 2018 bike when really it's a 2019 bike ?...??.come in Dave ,please.

Yep a weird and wonderful way we do - and have done things with registrations in the UK for a number of years now.

Many years ago, registration numbers for the year used to swap on 1st August each year. Why 1st August is anyone's guess, but it did, so taking 1975 as an example and when I bought my Suzuki GT750. Registrations then were ended by a letter and had the format "AAA NNNY" where Y was the letter of the year, and which changed on 1st August each year.
So...(following so far)......if I had bought my GT750 in the period 1st August 1974 - 31st July 1975 the registration would have been "ABC 123N", but if I bought it 1st August 1975 it would have been "ABC 123P". The following year would have ended in "R" (as "Q" was kept for kit cars).
Still following me?

In 2010 the motor industry rebelled as basically in July their sales numbers were down drastically, with everyone waiting for the new registration which would come out on 1st August. So the UK government changed the system (and style of number plate) to be 2 registrations a year, one from 1st March - 31st August and the other from 31st August to 28/29 February (depending on the leap year). Still with me? The basic registration format is AA NN AAA where NN relates to the year, but also to the year period (1st March - 31st August) or 1st September to end February. The next craziness (so people could identify the year (or not) was to start the numbering systems at different start point (whilst still retaining a year identifier), and decided that for registrations 1st March - 31st August, this would be the last 2 numbers of the year (so 2001 had 01, 2002, 02 etc). They then decided that the sequence for the period 1st September - end February would start at 50 - so 2001 would be 51, 2002, 52 etc. Still with me?

The system started in September 2001, so there are no "01" plates, the new format started with "51" at 1st September 2001

So what you finish up with is.....

01 - no plates issues. 51 (1st Sept 2001 - end Feb 2002)
02 - 1st March 2002 - 31st August 2002. 52 1st September 2002 - end February 2003
03 - 1st March 2003 - 31st August 2002. 53 1st September 2003 - end February 2004
etc to current day, we are at
18 - 1st March 2018 - 31st August 2018, 68 1st September 2018 - end February 2019
19 - 1st March 2019 - 31st August 2019, 69 1st September 2019 - end February 2020

So when Daytona says he's getting a "19" plate machine, that's because it will be registered for the period 1st March - 31st August 2019. If he bought it on the last day of February this year, it would be a "68" plate.

Realistically it doesn't affect trade-in values, as dealers etc look at the actual date the machine was registered, not the registration. It's purely a "status" style symbol of rolling out your new machine on the day the the registrations are released. I did this in September 2016 when I picked up my Explorer on 1st September and had a new "66" plate.

Since all this hoohah has gone on, the sale of private plates has rocketed, as you can still put plates from older vehicles on newer cars (but not vice versa). So just to confuse you more, I could put my "66" plate on a new bike I bought registered on 1st March 2019, but I couldn't put a 2019 plate on my 2016 bike.

Also dealers will sometimes pre-register new cars to get meet their sales targets, especially around February and August time (as people are waiting for the new reg) so sometimes you can get a good deal buying a car in September that is brand new but has the older number on the registration (as has been registered by the dealer) rather than the new one, (so you become the second owner rather than the first).

I hope you followed all that as I'll be asking questions later!!!!

Incidentally, nice bike Daytona, thinking of trading my Explorer for one when I stop touring

[MarkN]

On 1st Feb 1963 vehicles in the UK were registered in the format AAA 123A and this remained as the year identifier until 1st Jan 1964 when it became AAA 123B. This identified the year for the vehicle until 1967 when, because the motor industry moaned again about skewed sales figures, vehicles registered from 1st Jan 67 to 31st July  67 had the format AAA 123E and from 1st August 1967 to 31st July 68 they were AAA 123F.

There was no age identifier for vehicles pre 1963 and prices for these plates can be astronomical

[Daytona]

Sorry Dave could you repeat that,lol,HHa

[Hooli]

Tret mesen today

That looks like the one I saw with a sold tag on in J&S today. They do look pretty good for a new bike, only thing I'd do is fit a proper rear mudguard to finish off the retro look as the hugger looks out of place.

[Daytona]

Yes hooli you've got it mate,

[Hooli]

I saw it while still laughing at the GSX14 FE they've got in. 12k on it & they want £8k! 

[Daytona]

Saw it hooli,tall thin salesman John says that's what they will definitely get for it,he tells me their guide price they are going up £500 per year,,last year he offered me 3 grand for my immaculate k7,even though at that time they had a k4 model in at 6 grand that wasn't in as good condition as mine.needless to say I refused his offer on mine,