Clutch seal upgrade questions

[Speedy1959]

Hi All..

This weekend I intend to fir the seal upgrade to the clutch slave cylinder.
2 questions..

1. When fitting the seal I assume to protruding part of the seal faces inwards towards the engine sprocket?

2. I read the How to on here and he says he uses "Red Rubber Grease".. Would normal grease not be recommended?
I know some petroleum products are harmful to rubber.. Is normal grease one of them?
I do have a tube of Caliper grease in the shed that is used to lubricate the sliding pins on brake calipers that live under the rubber bellows.. I assume I could use this OK?

Thanks in advance for your usual help and advice.

S.

[seth]

over to barmy on this one .

[KiwiCol]

I'd say (and would use myself) the caliper grease would be fine to use. The stuff Dave is talking about would be a 'safe' grease to use on rubber components.

But, Dave will no doubt be along soon & explain his rationale on the red grease.

[Speedy1959]

On a related subject..
I have been using this on parts of the rear suspension linkages on previous bikes that are subject to water / salt water (in the UK)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OUTBOARD-MOTOR-BOAT-WATERPROOF-TRIPLE-GUARD-GREASE-MERCURY-MARINER-EVINRUDE-/161483608516

Havent used it on the 14 yet!

[Andre]

1. Goes the other way - protruding part fits in piston. It is a tight fit as it will move together with the piston. See attached pic (27A) for orientation.

2. I used the red rubber grease as I had some lying around. Otherwise I would use Silicone grease which is also used at other spots of the 14, for example the hub shock absorbers  (located in the rear sprocket carrier).

[Speedy1959]

Andre thats spot on..
Thanks very much..

S.

[gsxbarmy]

As Andre says 

You can use Silicone grease, I've only used Red Rubber grease as its not harmful to the seals, and is what you use when re-assembling calipers to enable the pistons to slide past the seals. Only ever bought a small 15g tin and still have loads left (at £1.79 - a bargain!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15g-Castrol-Red-Rubber-Grease-Brake-Caliper-Fluid-Mini-Tin-BUY-2-GET-5-OFF-NOW-/131714656463?epid=1856194140&hash=item1eaace28cf:g:coYAAOSwFDpZzndo

[rollerfish01]

Done my upgrade today.
Last time when changing the front sprocket, I detached the inner engine sprocket cover and carelessly pull on the clutch lever.
As a result the metal plate (guard) deformed and let dirt accumulated. So this time do the clean up and upgrade the clutch seal. The clutch become smooth again !
shot some photos for whom may interested.

[seth]

Fantastic show exactly what to do and how much crap on the slave cylinder .

[KiwiCol]

Does anyone have the actual part number of the seal itself?  I find Busa kits, but not the seal alone.  Thx

[Blubber]

Does anyone have the actual part number of the seal itself?  I find Busa kits, but not the seal alone.  Thx

Yep.

https://www.bike-parts-suz.com/suzuki-motorcycle/assignment_spare_parts/23166-02F20

(under tech tips  )

[KiwiCol]

Cheers Blubber.

Just found it on ebay, $NZ14 for the seal & $NZ77+ for shipping!!!   Bloody madness.   I'll source from local Suzuki dealer.

[froudy]

Oh I missed this thread completely

Seems a very sensible upgrade fitting that extra seal...I'll be ordering one in a mo and will fit it at the earliest opportunity that I get

I've just checked the price and in the UK it's around £12.50. Luckily Partzilla in the USA advertise it for $9.13 which is £6.80. Father in law is off to Florida next week to stay with his Son...So I've asked him to place the order and send it home with Father in Law when he returns to the UK

[Notty]

Oh I missed this thread completely

Seems a very sensible upgrade fitting that extra seal...I'll be ordering one in a mo and will fit it at the earliest opportunity that I get

I've just checked the price and in the UK it's around £12.50. Luckily Partzilla in the USA advertise it for $9.13 which is £6.80. Father in law is off to Florida next week to stay with his Son...So I've asked him to place the order and send it home with Father in Law when he returns to the UK

Make that 2 Steve !!
@froudy

[froudy]

Make that 2 Steve !!
@froudy

If he hasn't already placed the order, I'll see what I can do