Continuing - So what did you do to your bike today...?

[Endless]

Soak and polish didn't get it all. Was a apprehensive about taking to it with steel wool but 0000 wool and turps has saved it. Thanks for the input Lurch 

[GSXKING]

Great result 🙏
Little bit of elbow grease I'd imagine 🥵🥵

[Endless]

No effort really, just went slow and with some care and it eased right out. Both gauges and headlight done in half hour

[Endless]

Bike has been sitting for a couple of weeks now, I get 20 mins here, hour or two there. Kids and work bury my time. Vinegar soak on the tank didn't work. Too much flash rusting. CLR worked a treat. Will give full treatment with sealer when time permits. I have a ride up to Belingen and back week after next, unfortunately Thunderbotls Way is washed out in sections. Will have to find some other twisties. Suggestions welcome! So now tank is clean, all fuel filters, fuel rail done/cleaned, new rubber, all lines bled, new rubber, lots of bits removed for a clean, rust on frame cleaned up and painted. Have gone to start it yesterday, but no go. Turning over, but not firing at all. Really starting to scratch my head, have gone over all the plugs I had disconnected, all appears ok so am a bit stumped. Will go over again tomorrow and hopefully blunder onto something I've missed. When sorted, she's off for a pink slip and a ride up the mountains 

[Hooli]

Are you getting the 3sec pump prime when you turn the key on? my first suspicion (as it sounds yours was) that you missed reconnecting something.

[Endless]

Are you getting the 3sec pump prime when you turn the key on? my first suspicion (as it sounds yours was) that you missed reconnecting something.

Yes Hooli, sure do, that was my first thing to check, then fuel actually delivering, then tank off again to see if the injector lead was plugged. There's one black plug in the headlight bowl that doesn't have a female to call home, but pretty sure it was like that though. It's not throwing any codes..

[Hooli]

Only black lead I can think of in the headlight is a twin wire one to one of the indicators, small square connector on it that looks the same as the grey on the other side? Mind you I don't think you guys got a front parking/sidelight & I seem to recall that's black, takes a capless bulb if so to identify it (brown wire to one side I think).

The pump running means you didn't forget a wire inside the tank either.

I'm trying to think what's under the tank, there's not a huge amount is there.

Tank plug, but you say the pump works so it's not that.
Coils, I'm sure they'd give a code if missed though.
Injector wires, one connector per injector. I guess it's possible they're in the wrong order so firing at the wrong time? The manual in the downloads section would identify the plugs by wiring colours to double check that.
TPS/SPS but I know they'd give a code.
STVA, again it'd give a code.
Cam sensor, no reason for you to have removed that & it gives a code anyway.

I think I'd be confirming you've got the right plugs to the right injectors next. They've always just fallen to the right place in my experience, but anything is possible. It won't throw a code as the ECU can see an injector but it'd be fuelling the wrong cylinder as it fires them.

Good luck.

[Endless]

Only black lead I can think of in the headlight is a twin wire one to one of the indicators, small square connector on it that looks the same as the grey on the other side? Mind you I don't think you guys got a front parking/sidelight & I seem to recall that's black, takes a capless bulb if so to identify it (brown wire to one side I think).

The pump running means you didn't forget a wire inside the tank either.

I'm trying to think what's under the tank, there's not a huge amount is there.

Tank plug, but you say the pump works so it's not that.
Coils, I'm sure they'd give a code if missed though.
Injector wires, one connector per injector. I guess it's possible they're in the wrong order so firing at the wrong time? The manual in the downloads section would identify the plugs by wiring colours to double check that.
TPS/SPS but I know they'd give a code.
STVA, again it'd give a code.
Cam sensor, no reason for you to have removed that & it gives a code anyway.

I think I'd be confirming you've got the right plugs to the right injectors next. They've always just fallen to the right place in my experience, but anything is possible. It won't throw a code as the ECU can see an injector but it'd be fuelling the wrong cylinder as it fires them.

Good luck.

Good point, I didn't mark them prior to removal, but from memory they're wired in such a way that it I'd be forcing things to reconnect them incorrectly. Will still double check though.
Great info re codes, narrows it down a bit.. I think! Will report back, hopefully with a win

[Eric GSX1400K3]

Check the connectors that have to come apart when you lift the tank off.  It can sometimes feel as though its seated, but needs an extra bit to fully seat home.  but if you're getting the EFI pump prime, it must be connected.  Check that the coil packs are fully bolted down and that you've pushed the HT leads fully onto the plug heads, they can sometimes miss the plug end.  you should feel a bit of a rasp as the spring end in the lead slips over the formed end of the coil. 

failing that, battery health? rectifier and lastly generator/stator coils?

[grog]

14 doesnt have sequential injection so doesnt matter which plug is where, they all trigger together.You need to check fuel pressure and spark, basic first checks.That tells you the path to follow. Pressure reg didnt get knocked refitting pump?

[Hooli]

14 doesnt have sequential injection so doesnt matter which plug is where, they all trigger together.You need to check fuel pressure and spark, basic first checks.That tells you the path to follow. Pressure reg didnt get knocked refitting pump?

I'd have to check the manual to be sure but I believe they do have sequential injection once running, but all injectors fire at start up because the engine doesn't know where it is.

I'd have to check the workshop manual to confirm my memory though.

[Hooli]

Found it, section 4-14.

[Hooli]

I've just thought of another one.

Have you unplugged the big grey plugs under the LH side cover? They link the coils/injectors etc to the ECUs. That'd stop it running. Should throw codes but I can't recall if it does.

[grog]

Hooli Genius, Grog Frogwit.

[Eric GSX1400K3]

Hooli Genius, Grog Frogwit.

Grog was right for the first turn of the crank, Hooli was right for the second turn, win-win