Continuing - So what did you do to your bike today...?

[Hooli]

I'd vote vacuum hoses for that improvement. If the old ones didn't seal you'd have a combination of an airleak making the bike lean & the lack of vacuum telling the ECU the engine wasn't working as hard as it was making it even leaner as it'd reduce the fuelling.

[Hooli]

Today I managed to avoid the worst of the rain with well timed cafe stops whiles till doing IAM observer training. Then tried to buy shoe brushes in about 8 different shops, you'd think someone who sells polish would sell the brushes too? seems not in nearly every case.
Anyway found them eventually in the big Tesco 6 mile from home. Walked out to my 14 with them, got on, pushed the button & click click click blurrrrr..... All the electric had gone missing!
I tried a couple of bumps starts on the hill out of the car park, but I think she was too flat to run the fuel pump as it tired to catch but didn't. So a mate came out with jumpleads as it's much quicker than waiting for recovery. She started right up on finest Jap electric from a Nissan being added to the mix. After getting her home I checked the charging rate - 13.1v with no load at all, not enough as we know. Then tried the stator output & found one phase was dead, the other two gave their usual 30-32v at idle (I know the manual says test at higher revs, but I just want to know if there was any output or not). So that's the third burnt stator in 178k miles, I think I overload them a but with the heated riding gear & grips in winter which probably explains it. I'll have look again to see if anyone will rewind it as an uprated version, no one would last time.

A couple of pics for ya...

What a lovely place to be broken down..



The culprit

[Dwain Dibley]

Nice bit of greenery there Hooli.

D.D.

[Hooli]

Nice bit of greenery there Hooli.

D.D.

Turn a little bit to the right & there's a honkin' gurt Tesco ruining the view.

[Dwain Dibley]

 

D.D.

[GSXKING]

Today I managed to avoid the worst of the rain with well timed cafe stops whiles till doing IAM observer training. Then tried to buy shoe brushes in about 8 different shops, you'd think someone who sells polish would sell the brushes too? seems not in nearly every case.
Anyway found them eventually in the big Tesco 6 mile from home. Walked out to my 14 with them, got on, pushed the button & click click click blurrrrr..... All the electric had gone missing!
I tried a couple of bumps starts on the hill out of the car park, but I think she was too flat to run the fuel pump as it tired to catch but didn't. So a mate came out with jumpleads as it's much quicker than waiting for recovery. She started right up on finest Jap electric from a Nissan being added to the mix. After getting her home I checked the charging rate - 13.1v with no load at all, not enough as we know. Then tried the stator output & found one phase was dead, the other two gave their usual 30-32v at idle (I know the manual says test at higher revs, but I just want to know if there was any output or not). So that's the third burnt stator in 178k miles, I think I overload them a but with the heated riding gear & grips in winter which probably explains it. I'll have look again to see if anyone will rewind it as an uprated version, no one would last time.

A couple of pics for ya...

What a lovely place to be broken down..



The culprit

You certainly have tested the design parameters of Mr. Suzuki @Hooli.
I appreciate your optimism too that weather looks quite daunting for a summers day ride.

[Hooli]

It'd chucked it down while I was in the shop and stopped as I went outside again.

Which was handy .

[grog]

Hooli, not too expensive for rewound unit. Opinion is not stator upgrade but regulator to MOSFET. Just a thought.

[Hooli]

I've never got why Mosfet is better? surely if the limit is stator output then that can't change no matter how it's regulated? I know mosfet should keep the stator cooler, but that's assuming the output is being regulated down for the required demand.

Or have I misunderstood?

[grog]

Can of worms Hooli. I dont know the answer. Just what ive read. They it saves stators, cooler , better switching. Have a google and youll end up more confused.

[Hooli]

yeah I have done previously & just ended up confused as you say.

[Hooli]

Hmm, just been googling for stators & rewinds etc.
Chinky ones are £44 upwards & look correct in pics, so I've ordered one to see what happens.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/315167232849

I'll see what I think of it before I fit it, but they are hardly a technical thing so should be fine. I'll keep the (previously rewound) genuine one & if this new one doesn't last I'll go back to getting the proper one rewound.

[Will14]

Hmm, just been googling for stators & rewinds etc.
Chinky ones are £44 upwards & look correct in pics, so I've ordered one to see what happens.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/315167232849

I'll see what I think of it before I fit it, but they are hardly a technical thing so should be fine. I'll keep the (previously rewound) genuine one & if this new one doesn't last I'll go back to getting the proper one rewound.

Makes you wonder how they can do it, £44 and delivered free from China, surely the freight must take most of that   

[Hooli]

Aye seems impossible doesn't it?

Equally though you have to wonder how Suzuki can dare to list them for £575 in UK dealers!

[Will14]

Aye seems impossible doesn't it?

Equally though you have to wonder how Suzuki can dare to list them for £575 in UK dealers!

Crazy! £575 = Approx 10% of the original bike purchase price when new!