My chinesium indicators packed up the other day due to a wire disconnecting from the light housing,so I fitted these ones instead, much brighter and with thicker wiring. Pictures as follows spot the difference with the Chinese ones :confused1:
Tally, like them. $45 delivered to Oz. Whats involved with fitting resistor?
@grog fitting the resistors is just a case of connecting them into the indicator loom, you may need two for each indicator which just wire up back to back. The other alternative is to fit a relay which does the same job. :cheers:
Grog, it's easier to just swap out the indicator relay for a compatible one. Both my bike have the digital relay & it'll work with the std setup if you want to swap back.
I also spent some time this morning looking at these, I see there's a new version that has DRL at the front & brake lights at the rear as an addition to the waterfall indicators. So long as they are bright I'd get them, don't want ones you can't see unless you're staring right at them.
Col, show me a link, new version lights and flasher unit you used. 🙏
Col, found them. Great idea. https://www.amazon.com.au/Kinstecks-Version-Motorcycle-Indicators-Motorbike/dp/B07SZDDZFJ
This is the relay link
http://www.bikestore.co.nz/products.asp?category=155&item=857
Quote from: Tally on Saturday, 26 September 2020, 07:07 PM
@grog fitting the resistors is just a case of connecting them into the indicator loom, you may need two for each indicator which just wire up back to back. The other alternative is to fit a relay which does the same job. :cheers:
Looks great, my setup is the same, waterfall leds and led head and taillights. With indicators I used the led flasher relay, better than load resistors. Been on 2 years, no issues.
Is it the 7 pin relay i need for 14?
Looks like it
@grog This is the one I got in 2019 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-GSX650F-GSX1400-7-Pin-LED-Flasher-Relay-Flasher-Relay-For-LED-Indicator/163942498901?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
I believe it's also the starter relay, so I've got the original wrapped up & tucked away under the seat as I don't 100% trust chineseium electrics.
Yes, a 7 pin led flasher relay is required. Mines been 100% ok.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Sunday, 27 September 2020, 04:24 AM
This is the relay link
http://www.bikestore.co.nz/products.asp?category=155&item=857
That is stupidly expensive for a 7 pin LED compatible relay. I paid about £7 for mine a few years ago from Ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Pin-Flasher-Relay-LED-Indicator-For-Suzuki-GSXR-600-GSF-650-GSX-1200-Bandit/313148342507?epid=26039030912&hash=item48e91880eb:g:vsAAAOSw3fNdNuUn
Mine was about £7-8 too.
Yep, 5AUD Hong Kong special.
I've got leds on mine currently so i assume i wont need a new relay.
(out of interest where is the relay located on the bike?)
I reckon I'll grab a set too.
@VladTepes Relay as shown in photo. Behind L/H side panel :onya:
If you already have LED indicators and if they flash at the correct rate, you wont need to change the relay unless yours have been wired in with resistors. If they do have resistors, which incidentally I tried on mine and they didn't work..Rip the lot out, replace indicators for the new ones and fit the flasher relay. It's much neater and less likely to play up.
The resistors if fitted can get very hot and melt plastic - as Froudy says rip them out and fit led relay :)
£8.90 for a relay off eBay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Pin-Suzuki-LED-Indicator-Flasher-Relay-SV-650-1000-DR-Z-400S-TL1000R-GSX-1400/202654510823?
Really liked the look of these Tally so thanks for posting. Ordered a set with the DTR and brake light function off Amazon and a relay off eBay. Can't really go wrong for £22 all in 🤗🤗🤗
No probs mate :boogie:
ordered the indicators :)
Hi Guy's, Indicators arrived along with a LED flasher relay (£8.90 off eBay) which I have already fitted and works fine with the OEM indicators. However, before I begin slicing, soldering and fiddling around with the new indicators can some one put a couple of pictures on to show how they connected the leads from the new or similar indicators into the 14's wiring please. I have no problem with how to wire them into the circuit electrically but would like to see how the physical connections have been made.
All help much appreciated as always.
Thanks
Phil
Quote from: Big Phil on Friday, 02 October 2020, 10:42 PM
Hi Guy's, Indicators arrived along with a LED flasher relay (£8.90 off eBay) which I have already fitted and works fine with the OEM indicators. However, before I begin slicing, soldering and fiddling around with the new indicators can some one put a couple of pictures on to show how they connected the leads from the new or similar indicators into the 14's wiring please. I have no problem with how to wire them into the circuit electrically but would like to see how the physical connections have been made.
All help much appreciated as always.
Thanks
Phil
I used these , no cutting or splicing
@Big Phil https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Indicator-Adaptor-Leads-Connector-Cable-For-Suzuki-LED-Indicator-Leads-Pair-Blk/130803265506?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Thanks Notty🤗 I was sure there would be a simple solution to me hacking about. Top stuff mate👍👏👏👏
Got them on order Notty and again thanks ever so much as you saved me cutting and splicing the cables which is always best avoided. This is an awesome forum🤗🤗🤗
@Notty are those just for standard indicators though?
The indicators purchased by
@Big Phil - for full function - require connection to the indicator & brake circuits (rear) and indicator & driving light/headlight circuits (front)
Vlad, the brake light version are easy to fit and work great. I got the adapters as posted earlier on this topic which allowed for the two standard indicator leads be fitted without any modifications. For the rear ones I made an extra lead up with 2 female bullet connectors and one extra wire coming off that. The two brake light leads from the indicators were then connected together via the bullet connectors and then the extra wire was pushed into the back of the brake light +ve connection. I did add solder to the end of the brake light lead I made so it was a thick and solid wire that pushed in tight. I did exactly the same idea at the front joining the two day time running wires together and attaching those to the side light bulb connector. Mines a K2 so the indicators only run when the lights are turned on but of course the indicators work on the ignition as do the brake lights. They look and work great and are very bright but are a little flimsy so care is needed not to over tighten them.
Quote from: Notty on Friday, 02 October 2020, 10:50 PM
Quote from: Big Phil on Friday, 02 October 2020, 10:42 PM
Hi Guy's, Indicators arrived along with a LED flasher relay (£8.90 off eBay) which I have already fitted and works fine with the OEM indicators. However, before I begin slicing, soldering and fiddling around with the new indicators can some one put a couple of pictures on to show how they connected the leads from the new or similar indicators into the 14's wiring please. I have no problem with how to wire them into the circuit electrically but would like to see how the physical connections have been made.
All help much appreciated as always.
Thanks
Phil
I used these , no cutting or splicing
@Big Phil
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Indicator-Adaptor-Leads-Connector-Cable-For-Suzuki-LED-Indicator-Leads-Pair-Blk/130803265506?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@Notty Thanks too for recommending those adaptor leads, i have the same clear rear light lens unit as pictured by
@Eric GSX1400K3 but with built in LED indicators.
I was reluctant to cut and splice into the original wiring so kept with the OEM rear indicators for the time being, but now i can remove those as soon as the LED compatible flasher unit arrives, thanks also
@Hooli Cheers :cheers:
@Big Phil any pics perchance?
Mien arrived in yesterday's mail :)
(I don't have any adapter kits or anything though)
I will get some pics on here later today Vlad.
Hi Vlad, Here's what I finally ended up doing at the rear. First off wired the indicators using the adaptors which is obviously very simple and just leaves the red wires to deal with. I removed the female bullet connector from the left hand indicator red wire and soldered it to a male bullet connector. I also soldered an additional wire to this connector (black as I didn't have any suitable red wire). On the other end of the black wire I soldered another male bullet connector to it. This then connects straight into the right hand indicator Red wire female connector.
The other bullet connector which has both the red and black wires connected to it pushes into the back of the large spade type connector from the rear brake light (black/white wire). It pushes in nice and tight to make a good electrical contact but can be pulled out again without too much effort.
The front is the same idea but the red wires connect to the positive of the front light connector.
Hope this helps.
Oops forgot to add the pics.
Bugger I'm not very good at this😂 The last photo is of the indicators with the brake light on so you can see they are very bright and will definitely help you get noticed when braking.
Must order. keep forgetting. Mate at work reckons, best thing you can do, get rid of those terrible stock indicators, have never worried me, just indicators. I do like those in pic. They waterfall, not flash?
Grog Phil vladtepes
I did these on mine day time running lights in blue of course faster lol for a fast bike :stir: And indicator as well great in the day and very bright at night they came in red white blue and cost me £30 for the four of eBay China
Thanks M, Kinstecks are $15 on Amazon. New version.
The Kinstecks are waterfall and the new versions have the day time running lights at the front and brake light function at the rear. As said earlier they are solid enough but don't over tighten them. Hand tight then just a turn with a spanner.
Ok can i play? You show me yours and i'll show you mine! :grin:
I managed to remove the rear indicators today and connect up the in built indicators, after receiving the new cable connectors and LED flasher unit.
Before.
(https://i.imgur.com/mzmPGyCl.jpg)
After.
(https://i.imgur.com/Pwhhm97l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IWhHGdyl.jpg)
Flash eh? :rolleyes:
@Big Phil Did you spot the larger diameter exhaust tubes? :smile2:
Looking good Milts I really like that very cool. Can you fit both your clear lens and the kinstecks indicators together I wonder? Do you have a link or info on the lens you fitted? I think I'm going for the full monty🤗
Oh and yes absolutely noticed the the big guns in the photo Milts😍 As I have said before on this forum they are one of the reasons I was drawn to my beloved K2. They look awesome and are in my opinion way more handsome than any other after market cans you can get bar the 4 in to 6 Campbell's which I also like very much. It's only the lack of sound that's missing. I have actually purchased another pair of relatively cheap OEM's off EBay to remove the baffles. They have only covered 3k miles and they cleaned up so well they are almost like new again, no scratches or dents. I'm so pleased with how well they polished up I can't quite bring myself to hack them about yet😂😂😂
@Big Phil I bought my rear lens off ebay awhile ago but can't remember the seller, but if you enter a search into ebay various types do come up.
I'm sorry i wouldn't know if it's possible to incorporate kinestecks with the inbuilt indicators, but i'm sure someone will know. :onya:
@Milts Although those rear light units do look good they will not only fail a UK MOT, but they are also illegal and dangerous if anyone is following you. When braking and indicating at the same time the brighntness of the brake light blocks out the indicator...I know because I've followed one and nearly hit him up the arse.
Thanks Froudy! I certainly didn't know that👍
I can confirm they are crap to follow & can't be seen too.
@froudy Thanks for the heads up :onya:
Had my suspicions about their legality but stuck my head in the sand.
I didn't consider the brightness of the brake lights against the indicators tbh but seems bloody obvious now.
Looks like a pair of mini indicators are required now or if allowed or legal? Bit more research me thinks.
Thanks again guys.
Cant be seen. Is that also with standard tail light or just led version. No good to me if not visible.
It's fine to use an LED stop/tail light conversion along with seperate LED indicators.
This was my setup. The indicators are GSX-R units which are smaller than the OEM GSX1400 items.
What indicators are these Steve, they're not standard.
Quote from: mjgt on Tuesday, 27 October 2020, 08:04 PM
What indicators are these Steve, they're not standard.
@mjgt I can't remember the year, but they're GSX-R indicators. Much smaller and more pleasing to the eye than huge OEM GSX1400 items.
I believe that the Suzuki Gladius indicators are also the same size and style.
Froudy, like them until i did price search. Chinese copies very cheap, quality worries me. Will ring bike wreckers next week, someone must have a good set at reasonable price.
Big Phil - thanks mate - I didn't get any adapter thingy.... must have to buy that separate or something - great another wait....
So 4 (each corner) or two (front and rear) adapters needed? Link?
Also I looked through my electrical stuff and I don' have any bullet stuff just spade terminals.
1 adapter for each light Mike. You won't need any connectors if you get the adapters, as that's what they're for.
Does anyone know of someone who has swapped out his GSXR indicators, similar to what Froudy showed. Maybe someone has some sitting to sell.
Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 10 November 2020, 02:20 PM
Big Phil - thanks mate - I didn't get any adapter thingy.... must have to buy that separate or something - great another wait....
So 4 (each corner) or two (front and rear) adapters needed? Link?
Also I looked through my electrical stuff and I don' have any bullet stuff just spade terminals.
Vlad, you need 4 of these they come in pairs. Two front to rear.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Indicator-Adaptor-Leads-Connector-Cable-For-Suzuki-LED-Indicator-Leads-Pair-Blk/130803265506?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@Big Phil are these the same do you reckon?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-Pair-Motorcycle-Indicator-Wire-Leads-Connector-Leads-Adaptor-Cable-For-Suzuki/124434242500?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item1cf8dbdbc4:g:gHUAAOSw101fqzw8&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACsBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkp2NA0WuhQytmt4dbStg00GBDF2T46R%252BDoRAAaHiaSjVvke4pUOrB1%252B7fAV1UELnV6B8IskPeD%252BLbbcTO4SqwinRefvV7zOsfFZaskLxubgTZeCWPNFQdb2HqyQmjXDieTRgyz0Owj0ISwxfw2kyCVZF4l1a9PkdzO%252F75UAWAwdntZQUE6%252FBH8KFUE7XTFaHen9y9NXVnRn4FcwmMQdPxA4OCFa9mKFE%252BH06QvlxJMYdXO22iyQ0TzSfQIW5wYYGaC3Zv0xPhldIOIBWvAvebqvLNC%252FClM%252BxGKISBQjxF1VPsEe4H5Dny5WCMKjVBkN9e%252F%252FW5mJeGyDEaOgEikOK96DzYowfxjszr6Hqq3WXUwWzdmI%252Bc309re%252FZyqOxkexGz4Sm8AV13lMs%252F21bFkoMkH3hTFH%252BPlg%252Fu6NQDHllLOuISbw3CFRgAJbXDp2nLl7X3m9LLdkCPsWaIpJWogfybLaEpR8Xraelub25wYJ7FTOvBe6PhFKIoADwX6MOoetAqGaRGBAp9Yq0UIuH8jCl31thZntpctpULQwx48A40mx39Qhm5kzvVmUqXXOcKc2T4O9zedlvdSqnyNfJ1OindN3uHgymVw19XK3JuctfMTal4ed5aKKU8WgLjfKP6d83N6lkJ%252FJ9Ze32xTIVQkseQi8W%252BN0TVqP8aEr4fJ8Ib59dYPWVh9p0qL2XJ5JoENvDaDuRnYxaIaHQn76%252BEnA3Q4pEFIceXyayOO2BAT5Xi0xwNPleNLS5euHtH9k6py%252B5BSzNxnGOrU%252BSpJjN3QyVlDq5XGug8c5KBQenIdzfB%252FnALRChI9xUScEe6KsBAhx03GmPeNVdGHYgoC%252FBxVXikssnKdIj7hGaamM%252BUnjVQpl8%253D%7Ccksum%3A1244342425007e78d897af724cffb32a23da40c40f29%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524&frcectupt=true
or even better a 4-pack.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-Pairs-Motorcycle-Indicator-Wire-Leads-Connector-Leads-Adaptor-Cable-For-Suzuki/184466880033?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D229877%26meid%3D17eef8af2ee14b4686837c194f4b9a30%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D124434242500%26itm%3D184466880033%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
that 4 pack is a good buy, but the postage is about the same as the items & they're from 'Straya'
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 11 November 2020, 12:32 PM
@Big Phil are these the same do you reckon?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-Pair-Motorcycle-Indicator-Wire-Leads-Connector-Leads-Adaptor-Cable-For-Suzuki/124434242500?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item1cf8dbdbc4:g:gHUAAOSw101fqzw8&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACsBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkp2NA0WuhQytmt4dbStg00GBDF2T46R%252BDoRAAaHiaSjVvke4pUOrB1%252B7fAV1UELnV6B8IskPeD%252BLbbcTO4SqwinRefvV7zOsfFZaskLxubgTZeCWPNFQdb2HqyQmjXDieTRgyz0Owj0ISwxfw2kyCVZF4l1a9PkdzO%252F75UAWAwdntZQUE6%252FBH8KFUE7XTFaHen9y9NXVnRn4FcwmMQdPxA4OCFa9mKFE%252BH06QvlxJMYdXO22iyQ0TzSfQIW5wYYGaC3Zv0xPhldIOIBWvAvebqvLNC%252FClM%252BxGKISBQjxF1VPsEe4H5Dny5WCMKjVBkN9e%252F%252FW5mJeGyDEaOgEikOK96DzYowfxjszr6Hqq3WXUwWzdmI%252Bc309re%252FZyqOxkexGz4Sm8AV13lMs%252F21bFkoMkH3hTFH%252BPlg%252Fu6NQDHllLOuISbw3CFRgAJbXDp2nLl7X3m9LLdkCPsWaIpJWogfybLaEpR8Xraelub25wYJ7FTOvBe6PhFKIoADwX6MOoetAqGaRGBAp9Yq0UIuH8jCl31thZntpctpULQwx48A40mx39Qhm5kzvVmUqXXOcKc2T4O9zedlvdSqnyNfJ1OindN3uHgymVw19XK3JuctfMTal4ed5aKKU8WgLjfKP6d83N6lkJ%252FJ9Ze32xTIVQkseQi8W%252BN0TVqP8aEr4fJ8Ib59dYPWVh9p0qL2XJ5JoENvDaDuRnYxaIaHQn76%252BEnA3Q4pEFIceXyayOO2BAT5Xi0xwNPleNLS5euHtH9k6py%252B5BSzNxnGOrU%252BSpJjN3QyVlDq5XGug8c5KBQenIdzfB%252FnALRChI9xUScEe6KsBAhx03GmPeNVdGHYgoC%252FBxVXikssnKdIj7hGaamM%252BUnjVQpl8%253D%7Ccksum%3A1244342425007e78d897af724cffb32a23da40c40f29%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524&frcectupt=true
They look identical Vlad👍
ordered :)
Quote from: Big Phil on Thursday, 22 October 2020, 10:36 PM
Hi Vlad, Here's what I finally ended up doing at the rear. First off wired the indicators using the adaptors which is obviously very simple and just leaves the red wires to deal with. I removed the female bullet connector from the left hand indicator red wire and soldered it to a male bullet connector. I also soldered an additional wire to this connector (black as I didn't have any suitable red wire). On the other end of the black wire I soldered another male bullet connector to it. This then connects straight into the right hand indicator Red wire female connector.
The other bullet connector which has both the red and black wires connected to it pushes into the back of the large spade type connector from the rear brake light (black/white wire). It pushes in nice and tight to make a good electrical contact but can be pulled out again without too much effort.
The front is the same idea but the red wires connect to the positive of the front light connector.
Hope this helps.
OK so I am about to do this and am having some trouble envisaging this part, even with the photos:
Quote
I removed the female bullet connector from the left hand indicator red wire and soldered it to a male bullet connector. I also soldered an additional wire to this connector (black as I didn't have any suitable red wire). On the other end of the black wire I soldered another male bullet connector to it. This then connects straight into the right hand indicator Red wire female connector.
The other bullet connector which has both the red and black wires connected to it pushes into the back of the large spade type connector from the rear brake light (black/white wire). It pushes in nice and tight to make a good electrical contact but can be pulled out again without too much effort.
I sort of get it, BUT I have a complication in that I I need to tap in three times to the brake wire - one each for the indicators and one for an additional top light I am rigging in the top box.
I cant think of any way to do this without cutting into the loom itself which I'd much rather avoid.
'
@Big Phil
@VladTepes Cut into the wiring on your new lights rather than the bike loom then, you only need one feed for the brake light that you can then split as many times as you need.
Well what's done is done BUT I have an issue wit the indicator plugs.
The adapter wires with a suzuki plug on one end and bullet terminals (F) on the other) do not seem to plug together.
Or rather they seemed to once but now not at all.
The ones that were on my previous indicators worked fine. These new ones don't click into place though - don''t seem to make a connection at all.
Here's a comparison.
Left - old indicator
Right - new adapter wire
An Ebay link (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-Pairs-Motorcycle-Indicator-Wire-Leads-Connector-Leads-Adaptor-Cable-For-Suzuki/184466880033?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649) to the ones I bought, as pictured at right.
The other picture shows the plug on the bike loom itself.
So, have I got the wrong adapter wire or what?
They look like they should fit ok.
Make sure the pins in the bike loom plug aren't bent at all. Also maybe tweak the metal parts in the new ones you've bought. Just do it carefully so that you don't break anything in the process.
Good Luck :onya:
Vlad, they look correct. No idea why wont plug together. You only need to tap brake wire once, then distribute wherever. Solder extra wires etc. Buy a distribution block. All will work. I like the GSXR indicators on Froudy bike. Bloody hard to find and bloody expensive. At least they would be visible. I trust my stock brake light, LED globes now, not worried about extra brake light included in indicators. Froudy, any idea of model your lights came off?
Hmm, not so sure. The left original connector has one male that goes into the two female prongs to make the connection. The rh one from your new indicators has the same two female prongs, so they cannot connect. The shape of the outer connector housing is ok, its the internal prongs that are the issue.
It looks to me like the 'slot' for the male connector is lower down within the body of the multiplug.
I had a real close look, was a bit slack first time. Doesnt look correct to me. Vlad, 3RD Gear in Melbourne sell the right ones for $16 for 4.
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 06 January 2021, 06:10 PM
I had a real close look, was a bit slack first time. Doesnt look correct to me. Vlad, 3RD Gear in Melbourne sell the right ones for $16 for 4.
Ordered! Thanks mate :onya:.
I expressed but with covid who knows.....
Now no idea what to do with the ones I bought before - bin I guess, that''s $ lost :(
@Big Phil did you get the front ones with the running lights built in?
Phil or anybody - do you know what wire I could tap into for the running light?
Yes I did Vlad. Mine is a K2 so the headlight doesn't come on automatically. I connected the running light to the sidelight bulb wire (brown wire I think) so the running lights work both in the sidelight switch position and the main headlight switch position.
If your still not sure I will open my headlight up and take a photo.
I don't think the convict spec bikes have a front sidelight, I don't know if they get the wiring anyway.
Oh yeah, I forgot Vlad is from down under with dodgy heritage 😂
If there is no sidelight Vlad then connect into the main headlight wire and the running lights will come on as soon as the bike ignition is turned on.
I suspect they'll go off when main beam is selected if you do that though.
Ah! I assumed that the low beam headlight bulb would be on continuously as it turns on as soon as the ignition is switched on. Bit lazy on my part didn't think about the high beam. Need to find a +12V supply that's constantly on when the ignition is turned on, preferably in the head lamp. Of course if Vlad's bike does have a sidelight bulb then he can use that as I did.
There's a switched orange wire near the fusebox, I'd suspect it's in the headlight too as I think it comes off the ignition switch.
In fact there would be a switched live feed to the dipped/main switch, I don't know what colour it'd be though.
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 07 January 2021, 01:29 AM
I don't think the convict spec bikes have a front sidelight, I don't know if they get the wiring anyway.
"Convict spec" i love it. The wiring is there but no globe in the headlamp unit, at least there wasn't in mine. Now with the LED headlight, i plugged that sidelight wire into the back of the main lamp connector, so my low and drl are on. Drl switches off when high beam is on. I can swap the connector around to the other wire at the back of the plug and have drl on with high beam , but as most of the riding time is with low beam on, i chose to have drl on with that.
Is there a means to wire it up whereby DRL would be on for both low and high beam?
If not, then low beam would be my preference as that'd be riding around town.
@Eric GSX1400K3 do you know what the relevant wire colours are?
Quote from: Big Phil on Thursday, 07 January 2021, 01:54 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot Vlad is from down under with dodgy heritage 😂
Oi! Who you calling dodgy.
I'll have you know my heritage is English and German! (if you go back far enough)
Not so much fun during WW1 when my great grandparents were interned for the duration of the war in case they might be German spies. :rolleyes:
In WW2 many of my rellies on that side fought - as Australians of course.
The other side of the family too.
P.S. Yeah I know you were joking :) :P
Vlad, not Yankee sidekicks or 2nd class Poms, We are Australians and thats where were from. 👍 Inside headlight shell, taped next to headlight connecter. Black plug, brown wire is positive, black is negative. Always powered high n low beam. Run your wires out thru back of shell, will be good for DRL. Already fused from factory. Hope this helps.
It does indeed thanks mate.
Ahh so you do have front sidelight wiring, interesting.
Quote from: grog on Thursday, 07 January 2021, 06:06 PM
Vlad, not Yankee sidekicks or 2nd class Poms, We are Australians and thats where were from. 👍 Inside headlight shell, taped next to headlight connecter. Black plug, brown wire is positive, black is negative. Always powered high n low beam. Run your wires out thru back of shell, will be good for DRL. Already fused from factory. Hope this helps.
perfect grog, thats the one.
:cheers:
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 07 January 2021, 07:40 PM
Ahh so you do have front sidelight wiring, interesting.
Yeah, us convicts need to see where were running to when the coppers are chasing us for stealing their bread
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 07 January 2021, 07:57 PM
:cheers:Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 07 January 2021, 07:40 PM
Ahh so you do have front sidelight wiring, interesting.
Yeah, us convicts need to see where were running to when the coppers are chasing us for stealing their bread
Yet you don't get the bulb holder to put a front sidelight bulb in.
Coz of our laws that headlights have to be permanently on.
The headlight on ADR was rescinded some years ago, it is not a legal requirement for headlights to be hardwired I have rewired mine into a switch and have had several run ins with the boys in blue bottom line is technically if they are smart enough they can get you for modification, but not having the headlight hardwired does not contravene Australian law
Given the level of expertise of the average tin-top drivers in this vast sunburnt country, id prefer to be seen and heard when on my bike.
Headlight permanently on when ignition on and louder exhaust is the g-o.
After commuting for quite some years with headlights on and off I am not sure it makes a lot of difference they have to LOOK to see you, headlight or no headlight, most of the issue to me is they just DONT look, statistics in the past did not reveal a marked decrease in the accident rate with the "headlight on law" that's why it was repealed,
I don't ride with it on and assume they haven't seen me , the bonus with that is if they haven't seen you they don't make a stupid unpredictable move " to help you" anyway each to their own, your risk , your consequence. Whatever suits based on the evidence / facts you have,
Have a good weekend,
Horse, youre correct about not having to have headlight on. I always assumed you did. Taught me something 👍Never really looked into it b4. My choice is light on but thats just me.
The ADR was changed, yes, so that new ones no longer need to comply but my understanding is that any bike which was sold during the period that ADR was in place does still need to comply. I could be wrong though.
As far as visibility is concerned. In THEORY if you are riding with the sun behind you - oncoming traffic looking into the sun and you do NOT have a light on then you are silhouetted and MAY be seen. It's less likely you'll be seen if that silhouette is broken up by a headlight being on.
In practice however I don;t think it makes any difference. The main upside do always on headlights as far as I can see is no way of forgetting to turn it on at night...