GSX1400 K3 - Resurrection II - WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES

[Mick_J]

Nasty. 

[hard road]

you can not swap frame numbers (reg numbers) from frame to frame, you would have to buy a frame with a V5. as to lifting engines then the way to go is strip the bike down as much as you can and lay the frame with engine on its side, then you lift the frame off the engine, so much easier, just done the same thing on my current project bike and all by my self. 

[Hooli]

Meh, tidier than mine 

[GSXKING]

Nasty. 

Is that all you have to say Mick   

[BanditsHigh]

Barry, can you take top off K5 motor, check out whats rattling. Use parts from rusty to fix it. Check pairs valves, maybe one has broken. Such low mileage, im reluctant to think its major. Loose timing chain due to adjuster stuck? That would be my first move, they dont usually stuff motors, especially at low ks. I wouldnt give up on that motor. BTW, trains, cars have engines., bikes have motors. 

Oh I'll be looking at it ... first order of business is to see if I can get the exhaust off.

Pairs valves was one thing that came to mind, possibly stripped camshaft holder bolts, shims popped out ... it's horrendous whatever it is.

I'm as surprised as anyone if it's gubbed at 25k miles, my K3 had done 103k before I took it off the road (it was still running fine).

All the best ... Barry

[BanditsHigh]

you can not swap frame numbers (reg numbers) from frame to frame, you would have to buy a frame with a V5. as to lifting engines then the way to go is strip the bike down as much as you can and lay the frame with engine on its side, then you lift the frame off the engine, so much easier, just done the same thing on my current project bike and all by my self. 

Hi, I didn't say anything about swapping frame numbers, it's the registration I'm talking about swapping ... I know you can transfer a private plate to any vehicle, so assumed that this would be no different 

Taking motor out, yep someone else mentioned that (or I read it in a post) ... I've not done that before, although when I rebuilt the K3 previously I had the engine raised up and then plonked the frame onto it, before I then added the front and back ends ... sounds like a relatively easy operation.

All the best ... Barry

[BanditsHigh]

So today, after many many hours ...

1) Took old throttle bodies off and they are jammed solid.
2) Took individual DNA filters off (destroying clamps in the process) and gave them a good wash.
3) Transferred fuel rail/injectors from old to new throttle bodies (was having problems getting the connectors off the injectors).
4) Fitted new throttle cables.
5) Fitted new throttle bodies.

Next on the TODO list ...

1) Fix a broken wire on the injector harness.
2) Wait for filters to dry and then oil them.
3) Wait for new clamps for filters to arrive and then fit filters.
4) Plug in a spare ignition barrel as the current one is solid.
5) Fit battery from K5 to K3 (I think the old K3 battery will be gubbed after 7 years).
6) Turn the engine over by hand a few times.
7) Turn ignition on and look for smoke.
8) Try starting the engine.

Also found a place that'll blast/powder coat the wheels (£60 per wheel) and the frame (around £120) if it's not past it that is (fingers crossed).

All the best ... Barry

[hard road]

you can not swap frame numbers (reg numbers) from frame to frame, you would have to buy a frame with a V5. as to lifting engines then the way to go is strip the bike down as much as you can and lay the frame with engine on its side, then you lift the frame off the engine, so much easier, just done the same thing on my current project bike and all by my self. 

Hi, I didn't say anything about swapping frame numbers, it's the registration I'm talking about swapping ... I know you can transfer a private plate to any vehicle, so assumed that this would be no different 

Taking motor out, yep someone else mentioned that (or I read it in a post) ... I've not done that before, although when I rebuilt the K3 previously I had the engine raised up and then plonked the frame onto it, before I then added the front and back ends ... sounds like a relatively easy operation.

All the best ... Barry

your reg number and VIN number are locked together so can not be transferred from one frame to another, legally.
as to the frame, ive just fitted a Zed1000 frame over a 1200 bandit engine on its side, sooooooo much easier and done on me own     

[Speedy1959]

I ride all year round including on Salted roads in the UK and NONE of my bikes have ever looked like as yours!
At the time of these photos (My old K5) I didnt use ACF50!
But what I DID do was / is to wash off thoroughly after every ride.. And YES I DO use hot water despite the guff about not using on Salt!
I then rinse with a hose.
For rust to get that bad thats says Neglect to me !

[BanditsHigh]

I ride all year round including on Salted roads in the UK and NONE of my bikes have ever looked like as yours!
At the time of these photos (My old K5) I didnt use ACF50!
But what I DID do was / is to wash off thoroughly after every ride.. And YES I DO use hot water despite the guff about not using on Salt!
I then rinse with a hose.
For rust to get that bad thats says Neglect to me !

Neglect sure, but also riding to work every day, it then sitting for eight-ten hours outside, before then riding back home ... that and sitting in a garage for seven years, which although it is dry does get damp during the winter!!

All the best ... Barry

[Mick_J]

Nasty. 

Is that all you have to say Mick   

What else is there to say, it's just nasty.

[BanditsHigh]

       She's running again after seven years, but only on two cylinders (1/4), which is why it took a bit to start ... don't you just love these engines ... trying to upload video but it's not letting me!

Tried the coil from the K4 and still same outcome ... so will need to have a look at the good old wiring diagrams and see if I can figure out what's going on. The plugs, injectors and coils are all what was on the bike when stored, everything is good for 1/4 so I'm thinking along the lines of a broken wire for 2/3.

Also had a quick check of the PAIR valves on the K4 and they're fine (thnik I've been calling it a K5 DOH!) ... so tomorrow it's try get the K3 running on all four and then get the cam cover off the K4 to see if anything is wrong with the top end.

It's been a very hard day due to the old ticker, but it was worth it 

All the best ... Barry

[hard road]

      She's running again after seven years, but only on two cylinders (1/4), which is why it took a bit to start ... don't you just love these engines ... trying to upload video but it's not letting me!

Tried the coil from the K4 and still same outcome ... so will need to have a look at the good old wiring diagrams and see if I can figure out what's going on. The plugs, injectors and coils are all what was on the bike when stored, everything is good for 1/4 so I'm thinking along the lines of a broken wire for 2/3.

Also had a quick check of the PAIR valves on the K4 and they're fine (thnik I've been calling it a K5 DOH!) ... so tomorrow it's try get the K3 running on all four and then get the cam cover off the K4 to see if anything is wrong with the top end.

It's been a very hard day due to the old ticker, but it was worth it 

All the best ... Barry

slow and steady Barry, no rush. I get bolloxed off my Mrs for pushing myself sometimes    just got to take it easy sometimes. 

[Hooli]

It's the same trigger etc for both cylinders so it can only be power/earth to that one coil causing the issue. Shouldn't be too much wiring to check back to the ECU & to the earth point.

Any FI light/code? I'd hope you'd get one if the ECU wasn't seeing the coil at all.

[BanditsHigh]

It's the same trigger etc for both cylinders so it can only be power/earth to that one coil causing the issue. Shouldn't be too much wiring to check back to the ECU & to the earth point.

Any FI light/code? I'd hope you'd get one if the ECU wasn't seeing the coil at all.

First thing I checked this morning was the black wire going to the 2/3 coil ... sure enough broken ... inside the feckin plug 

Soooo, thinks to myself, I've got two spare looms around somewhere ... found the first quite easily and did a plug for plug comparison and everything apart from the R/H switchgear plug is the same, K3/K4 is 8 way, K2 is 10 way!

After a lot of checking and getting pissed off by the crap in the Haynes manual, I've figured out the first loom is a K2 and would require I buy another R/H switchgear (lights on/off instead of hazard lights).

Now need to find other loom and see what year it is, if lucky a straight swap, otherwise try and fix current loom (but it's really crappy compared to the two pristine spares).

All the best ... Barry