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Just about to take my bike to the suspension guru.

Started by Nic, Monday, 24 January 2022, 03:38 PM

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KiwiCol

Thanks for the update Nic, even though the changes were 'sub-optimal' at best.
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VladTepes

Quote from: Nic on Thursday, 03 February  2022, 03:02 PM
I told him I wanted a nice soft ride but that doesn't seem to go well with suspension dudes now does it, I reckon they all must think we ride on the track?
So far, disappointed is the word for today, even though, I can feel that the bike is way surer leaned over that's not what I asked for. I ride on the worst roads known to man and I need the bike set up accordingly.
Stay tuned.

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Nic

I'm going to loosen all the pinch bolts and push down on the bars a few times, you never know, might help with the vibration?

Eric GSX1400K3

You dont think it's your wheel bearings? Tyre pressures on head stem bearings?


I would have checked all those things first before changing the settings you've paid for, but each to their own.
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

Nic

Wasn't vibrating before, I've been all over that stuff when I first got the bike.
I just had a close look at the preload adjusting hex heads, ( aluminium ) they were all damaged, looked like he used either an open ended spanner or a shifter, I know they were good because I adjusted them before I took the bike in with a ring spanner, all 6 sides were damaged on both heads, I managed to tidy them up with a small file, this really is unacceptable hackerage and it shits me to tears that he has done that.
Anyway, I've loosened off everything and given the bars a good workout, the forks feel a lot softer now, we'll see how the next ride goes.
Each to their own  :whatever: FFS I can easily put the settings back.

Tim1954

Check from the rotation arrow that the wheel has been installed correctly.

Eric GSX1400K3

I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

Nic

Quote from: Tim1954 on Thursday, 03 February  2022, 05:26 PM
Check from the rotation arrow that the wheel has been installed correctly.
It's on the right way. I think if I can get rid of the vibes I can get a setting that should be an improvement from the stock springs, I'm cautiously optimistic.

grog

Nic, so disappointed for results. That bloke just needs bagging, far diff to one that did mine. Checked my settings, both at 7. Works well. Vibration, id jack up front. Undo every bolt, then re torque, axle, calipers included. Start at top, nip up axle, then do the rest. There is a process, think i got it right. Someone will tell if im correct. Youll be right Mate, just hope this helps.

Nic

Quote from: grog on Thursday, 03 February  2022, 06:07 PM
Nic, so disappointed for results. That bloke just needs bagging, far diff to one that did mine. Checked my settings, both at 7. Works well. Vibration, id jack up front. Undo every bolt, then re torque, axle, calipers included. Start at top, nip up axle, then do the rest. There is a process, think i got it right. Someone will tell if im correct. You'll be right Mate, just hope this helps.
Thanks Grog, I've done something like you suggest, need to ride it tomorrow to see how it is. 7 on yours, well I've set mine pretty close to that. I've got new brake pads to put in front and rear so that'll be a good clean for the calipers  but I'll save that job for after I get this right.
Oh well, I was happy it was only $500. In the end it should be ok. Famous last words.

grog

Youll be right, it will be better. Id suck out oil to get gap correct, they work it out at their factory, he should stay with their advice. Im always amazed at lack of vibration on mine, bars, pegs etc. Previous advice will fix that.

Nic

I agree mate, as someone once said to me, smarter people than you have worked it out :)

Hooli

I'd bet checking your pre-load too, he'll have changed that to get the static sag. But that makes a big difference to ride quality. My personal preference is a softer springing (ie less preload) and then control it with stiffer damping. It 'll move around more under braking etc but will give a smoother ride.

I agree about taking the extra oil out too. That gap is there to give room for it all to compress, I'd trust the designers over a bloke that can't even turn a preload without damaging it.

Milts


@Nic
           I feel your pain and frustration, when you put your trust and money in the hands of 'experts' and end up with sub standard results that's gutting!
           Experiment with adjusting the settings yourself to achieve the ride you want, it wont cost you anything but time, and you can always return to stock settings at worst.

Wish you the best.       
         

Nic

Quote from: Milts on Friday, 04 February  2022, 07:27 AM

@Nic
           I feel your pain and frustration, when you put your trust and money in the hands of 'experts' and end up with sub standard results that's gutting!
           Experiment with adjusting the settings yourself to achieve the ride you want, it wont cost you anything but time, and you can always return to stock settings at worst.

Wish you the best.       
         
Thanks Milts, I usually run for the hills when I hear the word experts.
For me, this is a familiar tale, for some reason the Gods of fair play have it in for me. I've always said if you want something done right you do it yourself. In this instance I was just lazy and once again I must pay the price.
It's raining today so I won't be going out to see if I've fixed the vibrations, I'm thinking the vibrations were simply a result of how hard the setup was. I want to ride the bike like it is now before I fuck around with air gaps, I don't think I can trust what the air gap is so I'll need to pull it all down so I can get the forks in the vice.
Oh the joy, probably do the new brake pads at the same time. Should be good in the end.
Thanks for everyone's comments so far. Stay tuned.

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