Smart Timing Retard Eliminator

[seano]

Hi anyone fitted one of these S-TRE its from AutoStar, and if so did it make any noticeable difference to the bikes performance in any way?
thanks
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRE-GSX1400-TL1000-SV1000-GSXR-600-750-1000-HAYABUSA/170385346282?hash=item27abc20eea:g:lmsAAMXQUmFSn3po

[gsxbarmy]

TRE's are a thing to avoid - have been known to cause wiring fires in the past.

If you want to advance your timing, then save your money and do this mod

https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=144.0

Has same effect as a TRE. And doesn't cost you a penny.

[seth]

TRE's don't improve performance. As well as removing the pairs valves, they will not make the bike run any smoother.
As @gsxbarmy said avoid a TRE as they are known to cause problems.
Fit an ignition advance wheel or do the mod as said in his link
.

[seano]

thanks guys ive just seen a rotor on ebay that is meant to do the job, if it is any good i dont know? but would save on filing
thanks
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fits-Suzuki-GSX1400-SPS-Ignition-Advancer-4-degree-Bolt-on-Horsepower/362100593355?epid=646446472&hash=item544ee092cb:g:75QAAOSwDD9Zyjcc

[gsxbarmy]

thanks guys ive just seen a rotor on ebay that is meant to do the job, if it is any good i dont know? but would save on filing
thanks
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fits-Suzuki-GSX1400-SPS-Ignition-Advancer-4-degree-Bolt-on-Horsepower/362100593355?epid=646446472&hash=item544ee092cb:g:75QAAOSwDD9Zyjcc

That's the thing @seano, as suggested by @seth does the same job as a TRE and/or the mod I mentioned above, but is dead easy to fit

[seano]

yeah thanks barmy think il go the easy route and get one 

[Hooli]

They don't do exactly the same thing though do they?

This is from memory as it's a mod I've never been interested in doing -

TREs only work in the first three or four gears where the ECU normally retards the timing to make the engine a bit less responsive & snatchy. As I understand it a TRE just fools the ECU into thinking the bike is always in sixth?

With the modified rota you'll get the normal full advance in the gears the ECU normally retards & then extra advance in the top few gears. Now I know loads run them without issue, but it may restrict your choice of fuel if you go places you can only buy low octane stuff.

[seano]

ok Hooli so id have to run it on a premium grade fuel  then?

[Hooli]

ok Hooli so id have to run it on a premium grade fuel  then?

I think most people who run them use normal fuel.

I was just thinking it might cause issues abroad with E10 as I know that burns differently, I can't recall if it's faster or slower burning though.

[grog]

Thats the reason i went for Healtech, advance on 5&6 remained stock. Though someone on here recently bought one and was no good. Mines been perfect for around 7 yrs. maybe their quality has slipped, no idea really.

[T 24]

TRE's are a thing to avoid - have been known to cause wiring fires in the past.

If you want to advance your timing, then save your money and do this mod

https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=144.0

Has same effect as a TRE. And doesn't cost you a penny.

The correct timing depends on your other mods.
I made those longer holes and tested it several times. The best result ( in my case ) was 2° advanced.

[grog]

T24, back when cars had distributors, out on the road and move until it ran best. Have done that countless times.

[T 24]

T24, back when cars had distributors, out on the road and move until it ran best. Have done that countless times.

Just the same method

[grog]

Its a pity 14 didnt come with OBD 2 plug. We would have a lot more tuning gadgets to talk about. They sell a gadget around here, for diesel utes/ svu etc. $299 fitted. All it does is change throttle ratio, about 1/3 quicker. They all rave about increased performance. It does nothing except they move their foot less. Placebo affect.All the diesel blokes buy lots.

[KiwiCol]

Its a pity 14 didnt come with OBD 2 plug. We would have a lot more tuning gadgets to talk about. They sell a gadget around here, for diesel utes/ svu etc. $299 fitted. All it does is change throttle ratio, about 1/3 quicker. They all rave about increased performance. It does nothing except they move their foot less. Placebo affect.All the diesel blokes buy lots.

LOL!  Nice one Grog!