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Clutch lever travel - very little friction zone - fix?

Started by VladTepes, Monday, 30 November 2020, 02:47 PM

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VladTepes

So the clutch master cylinder / line has been bled and now there is very little lever travel between disengaged and fully engaged.

The clutch disengages totally with about 1 cm of lever travel (from lever fully out).

This is painful as it makes slow manoeuvring reliant on use of rear brake rather than in combination with slipping the clutch.

I've also managed to stall it at lights a few times this morning....

What do I need to adjust and how?
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steve porter

the only adjustment is at the lever 5 is the closest from memory

SA14

Factory setting is number 2.


grog

Not sure number mine is on, have never moved it. That is only adjust Vlad.

steve porter

It may have moved to between numbers during vigorous bleeding which being a point instead of a flat moves the lever further away

VladTepes

I've got after market levers - the thing is that before the bleed i had a range of friction zone now its much smaller.  Weird.
Ottomans: 'Hippity hoppity, Vienna's our property"
...and then the Winged Hussars arrived.

Vlad's K7 "Back in Black"
YouTubeLandyVlad Rides

Eric GSX1400K3

The clutch master cylinder is the same principle as the brake master cylinder, given that your brake MC was stuck in its bore, theres a chance that your clutch mc is suffering the same fate.
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

Mick_J

Quote from: SA14 on Monday, 30 November  2020, 05:42 PM
Factory setting is number 2.

The two spanners is not the setting but the difficulty rating for home maintenance. 1 = very easy, 5 = skilled home mechanics only.
Keep the rubber side down.          Mick

SA14

Quote from: mjgt on Tuesday, 01 December  2020, 08:12 PM
Quote from: SA14 on Monday, 30 November  2020, 05:42 PM
Factory setting is number 2.

The two spanners is not the setting but the difficulty rating for home maintenance. 1 = very easy, 5 = skilled home mechanics only.

That's true but in this case the factory setting is actually (coincidentally) also number 2 on the dial. I posted that pic to show what the manual says about the clutch being non adjustable. I can see the confusion but it's just a coincidence.

Eric GSX1400K3

Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 01 December  2020, 11:45 AM
I've got after market levers - the thing is that before the bleed i had a range of friction zone now its much smaller.  Weird.
I'm assuming your aftermarket levers aren't adjustable? I had Pazzo gold levers on my Daytona 675 that were 8 position adjustable. 
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

VladTepes

Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Tuesday, 01 December  2020, 11:24 PM
I'm assuming your aftermarket levers aren't adjustable? I had Pazzo gold levers on my Daytona 675 that were 8 position adjustable.

Yeah they are adjustable but it only adjusts reach it doesn't make any difference as far as engagement / friction zone is concerned.
Ottomans: 'Hippity hoppity, Vienna's our property"
...and then the Winged Hussars arrived.

Vlad's K7 "Back in Black"
YouTubeLandyVlad Rides

steve porter

Might be worth cleaning and greasing the clutch pushrod, if it has stiction it can cause the clutch to feel funky

grog

Its a strange one Vlad, my friction point on mine so good. Obviously yours was, cant see how it could change, yeah maybe pushrod clean, about all i can think of. Unless, still some air trapped, that could give a weird feel. It really has to be air, thats all youve changed. If some air left in system, would that give uneven feel, im thinking yes. Air doesnt compress same ratio as solid fluid. Just my thoughts. I remember old bloke telling me, if it worked before, doesnt now, what did you change. All you did was bleed fluid.

steve porter


Eric GSX1400K3

Original clutch plates?
Or sticking slave cylinder plus air in the system as already suggested.
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

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