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Started by Cursed, Monday, 18 February 2019, 04:49 AM

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shanered6

Just out of curiosity pull the air filter and then see if it starts ?..... a few on here may remember i had similar problems last year ( infact exactly the same issues ) and i went through the entire bike , and thats what it turned out to be it was an after market filter that just didnt give the engine enough air to breath .
i intend to live for ever or die trying !!

Gsx 1400 k6 , Thunderace 1000 , Guzzi stelvio 1200 ntx

Cursed

Quote from: shanered6 on Tuesday, 05 March  2019, 05:34 PM
Just out of curiosity pull the air filter and then see if it starts ?..... a few on here may remember i had similar problems last year ( infact exactly the same issues ) and i went through the entire bike , and thats what it turned out to be it was an after market filter that just didnt give the engine enough air to breath .

Will give this a go 👍
Some call it reckless behaviour - I prefer to think of it as youthful exuberance & character building.

Cursed

Quote from: GSX3 on Tuesday, 26 February  2019, 04:08 PM
Had a similar problem yesterday with mine after 5 week lay up. Turned out to be the clutch lever switch. Much fiddling and Inox spray did the trick.

Would this not cut the ignition all together, stopping it from turning over?
Some call it reckless behaviour - I prefer to think of it as youthful exuberance & character building.

grog

Cursed, give it a spray of carby cleaner in air filter. Easiest way to determine if a fuel prob. If it starts for a few seconds its fuel, if not another prob. Do that first. Lets know.

grog

Mate, to check spark you need HEI tester. ive had mine over 20 yrs, just shorting to earth is not good enough, must be checked with HEI. Ive seen many motors not starting, spark just tested to ground, looks ok, motor not start. Check with HEI, no spark. Would be very unusual for both coils to fail, impossible, you never know. https://easyautodiagnostics.com/misc-index/hei-spark-tester

GSX3

Quote from: Cursed on Wednesday, 06 March  2019, 06:26 PM
Quote from: GSX3 on Tuesday, 26 February  2019, 04:08 PM
Had a similar problem yesterday with mine after 5 week lay up. Turned out to be the clutch lever switch. Much fiddling and Inox spray did the trick.
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Would this not cut the ignition all together, stopping it from turning over?
Engine turned over as normal.
I managed to start the engine but ran like a bag of nails missing, banging etc, and would not idle. Pulling the clutch in cut the engine. Twist the throttle would restart as if on 2 cylinder.

Worth spraying the switch. Exercised the lever and all was good. Had to reset idle as I had wound it in to try to keep it running. Also did the sidestand switch after the event.

Am very interested to hear how you get on. Bruce
2008 K7

Cursed

Now.. Part of me didn't want to reply to this but here goes....

Had the pump apart (multiple times), cleaned (multiple times) and seals replaced
Washed the tank out
FI system came apart, cleaned and checked
Checked the clutch switch
Checked the side stand switch
Pulled the air filter entirely
Checked for spark
Re-did all the HT lead connections
New spark plugs
Checked fuses
Checked wiring
Checked resistance in all the sensors

No joy..

:frustrated:


However... It's working now :boogie:

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Quote from: Cursed on Monday, 18 February  2019, 09:08 PM
Quote from: Blubber on Monday, 18 February  2019, 08:55 PM
Quote from: Cursed on Monday, 18 February  2019, 08:56 AM
Engine has been apart, the timing was set but maybe I'll need to revisit it.

Yes leads are on ordered 1 to 4, the HT leads are still numbered.

maybe switched the loom side of the coils?  ???

I've checked the manual, they're definitely correct - Would have liked it if the fix was that simple!

I can't f**king read properly.. I checked the manual, except I read it wrong.. @Blubber had it right all along  :rofl2:

Cheers for your help guys, I feel like a right tit.. These things happen though I suppose, got to laugh or i'd be crying :rolleyes:

On the plus side, it's had a real going over now!
Some call it reckless behaviour - I prefer to think of it as youthful exuberance & character building.

Blubber

Time to trash the tits out of it  ;)

Don't fall off  :rofl2:

Good to got it sorted. And shared the fault.

Did you take a picture of the correct connections for future reference or to help others?
Wreck-it Richard - one of the unDutchables

Cursed

Quote from: Blubber on Tuesday, 19 March  2019, 01:24 AM
Time to trash the tits out of it  ;)

Don't fall off  :rofl2:

Good to got it sorted. And shared the fault.

Did you take a picture of the correct connections for future reference or to help others?

I didn't, but that's a good idea. I've got to have the tank off again shortly.. I'll take a pic  :onya:
Some call it reckless behaviour - I prefer to think of it as youthful exuberance & character building.

Kiwifruit

Got my tits in a tangle after cleaning the bike. Tried looking for problems caused by water......gave up.
Then asked the panel for their help before some asked if l had knocked the kill switch.  :facepalm:
Great she's sorted  :clapping:
Another great day on the right side of the grass.😎

ARH

 :rofl2: :rofl2: we've all done it at some point!   Glad its sorted now  :cheers:

Hooli

 :lol: :lol:

Nice fix. I've never done anything stupid like fill an engine with oil before fitting the sump plug, or trying to start a car without putting the dizzycap back...

grog

No never done anything stupid.  :smile2: 47 years fixing cars, nothing ever goes wrong. Steering drag link upside down, oil filter change but old o ring still stuck to housing, messy. Rebuilt an old H20 Nissan motor, at least 3 hrs to fit it back in to a van. Found the oil pick up still sitting on bench. Did up a kombi diff, fitted crown wheel wrong way round, 4 reverse and 1 forward gear. Rebuilt 308 Holden V8, timing chain fitted, lined up marks, no prob except i had motor upside down on engine stand. So many links on rhs, i had it on lhs. This not doing my reputation much good. Im usually good but these few stories from a long career. I once made the news for my mistake. Did up gearbox on Leyland Tiger truck. Around 11 or 12 detent balls in it. I left 1 out. Gearbox locked up on Story Bridge approach in Brisbane. Traffic chaos for 4 hours. Even my parents saw me on news trying to get truck moving. Shit happens. Sorry to bore you blokes. 

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