Phillips Screws (actually JIS)

[grog]

Not sure if most of you know that Phillips screws on our 14 , not really that many, arent Phillips screws. JIS is their name, simply Japanese Industry Standard. Have a google at the difference. JIS drivers do work way better in them, more grip. All i got yrs ago was a set of bits to fit in impact driver, only use on initial undo and retighten, Phillips works fine otherwise.

[VladTepes]

Well said old boy !

[ARH]

Great point Grog... to be honest I didn't realise how many variations there are on this 'type' of screw until I looked it up on Wikipedia!   I have screw bits in many shapes/sizes but small wonder I end up with 'chewed' screw heads...     Not on my 14 of course - there I take great care 

[Mister Fishfinger]

Yes I wish more people knew about this.

I invested in a couple of the proper screwdrivers like these:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JIS-Screwdriver-Set-Vessel-Megadora-P1-P2-and-P3-12705-6-8-/171753460588

Absolutely brilliant when you are working on old Japanese classics, you'll wonder why you didn't do it years ago.

[Hooli]

I've got a box of machine screws with proper heads & just swap them as I go. Bloody daft japs using the wrong screwdrivers, it's like those yanks who failed to use proper Imperial gallons etc.

[ARH]

I've got a box of machine screws with proper heads & just swap them as I go. Bloody daft japs using the wrong screwdrivers, it's like those yanks who failed to use proper Imperial gallons etc.

or those daft people using Km instead of miles 

[Hooli]

Exactly, that's bloody french & who wants to talk that? 

[seth]

Maybe that's why they think thier bikes are faster using those km's things instead of proper miles.


Back on thread
It makes a massive difference using the correct
J.I.S. screwdrivers .

[ARH]

   C'mon lil4399...where are you?   

[KiwiCol]

Well, for what it's worth, I like the metric system.  All in "10's"  not 12's, 14's & 16's.  Ounces, pounds, stone, hundredweight on & on. Then you have the yank version called the same but is a different measure again??!  There's farthings, hapenneys, pennys, sixpence which is 5 cents, shilling, 12 pennys but 10 cents, florin, half a crown, crown, a different sort of pound but called the same, dunno what comes after pounds?  Then ya look at land area??  all those different names for stuff, how many perches are there to an acre?

Metric is a FAR easier and more logical system.  Come on, try and at least get into the 20th century, those old measures belong in the dark ages - you'll catch up one day.

[Hooli]

Metric is obviously easy as the french understand it

[ARH]

Metric is obviously easy as the french understand it

@Hooli ... you like the French...I can tell 

@KiwiCol .. totally with you mate..  after all that's why you've got 10 digits on your hands right? 

[Hooli]

@Hooli ... you like the French...I can tell 

What gives it away? 

[KiwiCol]

Metric is obviously easy as the french understand it

@Hooli ... you like the French...I can tell 

@KiwiCol .. totally with you mate..  after all that's why you've got 10 digits on your hands right? 

Yep, so we can count proper like.  Now what were they counting when they came up with those 12's & 14's? 

The old imperial system did give us good sayings though,   Miles of smiles. Tons of fun, Penny for your thoughts, Look after your pennies & the pounds will look after themselves.  I've not heard of metric equivalent of these

[KiwiCol]

@Hooli ... you like the French...I can tell 

What gives it away? 

So no Citroen or Peugeot for you then Hooli?   The new 3007 in diesel is a cracking wee car.