Help with bike lying up

[gsxbarmy]

it might be being "held" by the airbox, not necessarily the connection on the outside, but the ones going across cylinders 2 & 3.

[Hooli]

Push n wiggle, it's a twat to get them in sometimes. It'll be worse in the cold as the rubbers won't be as flexible.

[Milts]

 
Suzuki boi

                 Ahem  i trust you have seen @Grahamir front forks.........just saying 

Good luck with your rebuild following with interest 

[Grahamir]

yea, good luck with those fork sliders, they look worse than mine did. Doable though. Forgot to mention in my post, get a small rubber block or something similar to wrap emery around, and keep paper soaked in paraffin or WD (which I used). You're doing a hellava job though.

[Mick_J]

Have you tried this stuff, I bought a shit load years ago and they are brilliant for this kind of stuff.  Might find them cheaper if you look around.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Garryson-Garryflex-Abrasive-Block-240grit/dp/B0001P08UG

[Suzuki boi]

Got the throttle body in today.
Heat gun and vaseline 
Got everything connected up.
Installed the new headers and collector box.
Fired her up,nope nothing.
Fiddling for over an hour and after about 100 attempts at starting I found the throttle body had gotten caught on one of the clamps and wasn't fully disengaging.
Fixed that.
Fired her up again,started but didn't idle for long without dying.
Dies when I open the throttle as well.
Found that the left header(when sitting on the bike) is ice cold while the others were hot.
Great it's running on 3 cyclinders!
Took the plug out ,looked clean , swapped it for one of the plugs.
Nope still ice cold.
Tested ignition coils. All good.
Even changed air filter as a non logical hope. Nope.
I was thinking injectors but no codes where coming up.
Disconnected that injector and no real change in idle or start up
If that injector was fully clogged should a code pop up?
Any other ideas to try?
Gonna get a compression tester on Amazon, but i strongly doubt the cyclinder is fully f**led.
Oh and about the fork legs,I've managed to clean up one of them pretty good andjust need to polish or spray now.

[seth]

When I got crude in one of my injectors no code came up it just was really difficult to start .
Like 2 cylinders then 3 then 4 and once it was going it didn't like low revs and kept miss-firing on the over run.
Soon as I got the injectors cleaned and service then refitted it ran like a dream.
You could try swooping over the 2 outer injectors (lub the seals with a very light smear of oil) you should be able yo swop them without removing the throttle bodies and see if the problem changes sides .
Least then you'll have either narrowed down the problem to the injector or will need to look at other things.
We always used to say if a problem was affecting 2 common cylinders at the same time(1-4 or 2-3) it was coils if the problem was (1-2 or 3-4) it would be carb related as they normally word in pair's.
The coils on a 14 still do as do the injectors (Only with a little more electronics involved) and you still need to balance the throttle bodies or at least check the balance every now and then.
Good luck

[Suzuki boi]

When I got crude in one of my injectors no code came up it just was really difficult to start .
Like 2 cylinders then 3 then 4 and once it was going it didn't like low revs and kept miss-firing on the over run.
Soon as I got the injectors cleaned and service then refitted it ran like a dream.
You could try swooping over the 2 outer injectors (lub the seals with a very light smear of oil) you should be able yo swop them without removing the throttle bodies and see if the problem changes sides .
Least then you'll have either narrowed down the problem to the injector or will need to look at other things.
We always used to say if a problem was affecting 2 common cylinders at the same time(1-4 or 2-3) it was coils if the problem was (1-2 or 3-4) it would be carb related as they normally word in pair's.
The coils on a 14 still do as do the injectors (Only with a little more electronics involved) and you still need to balance the throttle bodies or at least check the balance every now and then.
Good luck

Seth you are the man.
I swapped injector 1(one that's not working ) with  injector 4.
Bike starts and cuts out,after a couple of starts.
Cyclinder one was warm and cyclinder 4 was cold. So must be an injector issue .
I seen on another thread about getting them cleaned. Would a cleaning do well with this injector as it seems no fuel is coming out of it,would a new one be needed?
And since the bike doesn't even idle with 3 cyclinders I'm guessing the other 3 need a cleaning!
I'm surprised how easy it is to access and take the injectors out as in the family car it was an absolute pain in the b**lox to get at them and take them out!

[seth]

I'd send all 4 to injector clean I used them
On my report
1 was 5 out of 10 the other
3 were 8.5 out of 10
They clean the injectors also replace the tiny filter in the injectors and supply replacement seals all for your postage to them plus about £60 returned to you in a few days .
A brilliant service .

Just for info Suzuki charge £201 per injector and £15 for the seal .

http://injectortune.co.uk

Good luck
I'm sure from what you've said this will sort it .
Before you refit the refurbed injectors
Make sure the fuel lines are clean and all filters to and in the pump are clean .
I also fitter a £3 inline filter to the low preasure line from the rear of the tank to the fuel pump .

No more problems since

Good luck

[Andre]

I like to add that I would check the resistance and continuity of the injectors, particular the bad one, before sending them in (see manual page 4-46). Failing these tests, imo, the injector is not serviceable.

[Suzuki boi]

Thanks Seth.
Ye I'd rather pay £100 for practically 4 new injectors then £900

Andre.
I actually tested the resistance of the bad injector before I swapped them around.
Haynes manual said resistance should be about 16.6 ohms if I remember correctly.
My injector measured at around 14.5 I think.
Would 2 ohms off mean it's buggered?

[Andre]

It's well within specs (see pic). Mine are 15.7

[Hooli]

Think is the coil can be fine, but if the injector is blocked it won't supply fuel.

Should work when cleaned I'd have thought though.

[seth]

@Suzuki boi
The £60 was for all 4 not each
Its a win win thing they give you a fully report on the injectors with the service and cleaning.

[Suzuki boi]

Injectortune got to me.
£62 for all injectors then €20 for me to post them to him. Not bad
Although found a lad who has an ultrasonic cleaner and said he'd clean them for nothing.
Only problem is finding new injector seals/grommets.
Would you get away with just reusing the old seals/grommets?
Tried to get a picture of the top of the injector, full of gunk they were. I'm shocked that any petrol got through any of them!!