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Started by Suzuki boi, Wednesday, 13 June 2018, 06:12 PM

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turner

HEllo., Just had my stator rewound , at REXS speedshop. he told me what to check and readings i should be getting . i was not getting anything from any of the three wires ( think same as Hooli, said brittle cables). my reg /rec checked out good, just fitted it ALL GOOD NOW, if in doubt give him a ring , very helpfull man

froudy

Stator is a very easy job to change..half hour tops. Make sure to use thread lock on the retaining bolts when refitting as without it they can work loose and cause major damage.
If you do need a new stator try Electrexworld.
Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!

Suzuki boi

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@Hooli
Yep all tests done with bike parked up for a day.
I've been reading a thread of snapeys and it seems he had the same problem as mine, rectifier all good but voltage only 45volts from stator.
Looks like he changed the stator and all good.
@froudy would it be an easy job? Looking in the manual it seems like I need a few "extra" tools to actually get it out. Would basic tools and sockets get it out or do I need some extra stuff?
Also reading snapeys thread it seems the aftermarket stators don't come with a rubber mould that's needed. Don't think I'd have any idea on how to fabricate something like myself.
Checked that electro site and they seem to not have a stator for the gsx 1400 only a rectifier.
So I may have to settle for a 2nd hand original one :whatever:

Hooli

It's an easy job, just remember to turn the starter idler cog a bit so it pops in place when you put it all back, oh & don't have your fingers under the cover when the magnets grab it. You just need allen drivers to do it, no special tools.

I got my stator rewound (can't remember where sorry, but I googled it & picked the cheapest) and it came with the plastic moulded bit fitted.

Suzuki boi

So I rang around for a stator for the 14 and was told that only could get one straight from Suzuki, that there was no after market one available.
But was told that the Suzuki supplier said he's only ever had to sell 1 stator, and that they never go. And was told to change the rectifier .
So part arrived today and changed it but no real change in voltage.
Changing the rectifier I thought should of sorted the voltage dropping at higher revs.
It's a pain in the ass because now I cant use my new heated grips because it reads the voltage as too low when I turn it on and then they don't work. !

Suzuki boi

Oh and also pain in the whole having to jump start it every morning

Hooli

I've had mine rewound a couple of times, I can't think who by though.

gsxbarmy

Quote from: Suzuki boi on Wednesday, 20 November  2019, 06:00 AM
So I rang around for a stator for the 14 and was told that only could get one straight from Suzuki, that there was no after market one available.
But was told that the Suzuki supplier said he's only ever had to sell 1 stator, and that they never go. And was told to change the rectifier .
So part arrived today and changed it but no real change in voltage.
Changing the rectifier I thought should of sorted the voltage dropping at higher revs.
It's a pain in the ass because now I cant use my new heated grips because it reads the voltage as too low when I turn it on and then they don't work. !

http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=267.0
Nothing to do.............all day to do it....I love retirement :lol:

Irish in Oz

Without a decent multimeter and some good electrical knowledge changing parts are about the best that can be done until it works, from my experience in the UK going back a long time it can be connections in those connector blocks caused by corrosion.

Hooli

From memory with the bike idling you should get 60v AC between any of the yellow wires from the stator to test it.

Andre

Manual states "More than 60 V at 5 000 r/min (When engine is cold)"

I get about 80-90 V.

Andre

Quote from: Suzuki boi on Wednesday, 20 November  2019, 06:00 AM
So I rang around for a stator for the 14 and was told that only could get one straight from Suzuki, that there was no after market one available.
But was told that the Suzuki supplier said he's only ever had to sell 1 stator, and that they never go. And was told to change the rectifier .

They don't sell them because people have them rewound, get an aftermarket, or replace with a used one.

Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 20 November  2019, 08:59 AM
from my experience in the UK going back a long time it can be connections in those connector blocks caused by corrosion.

Yes, connectors and wiring can also go bad.

Another cause for failing generators  can be too much load. http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=432.0

Hooli

Quote from: Andre on Wednesday, 20 November  2019, 02:31 PM
Manual states "More than 60 V at 5 000 r/min (When engine is cold)"

I get about 80-90 V.

Ta, I was too lazy to check.

Suzuki boi

Another poxy post in this million posts thread!!
Quick one .
What idle speed do you get on cold mornings?
Mine starts at over 2k revs for a little bit then to about 1.6k revs for another bit then down to 1-1.1k revs.
I'm more concerned with the 2k+ at the beginning

seth

Others might know more but as your bike is kept outdoor it might just be colder than normal making the initial tick overvhigher than usual.
Hopefully it's nothing major

:cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

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