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Started by grog, Tuesday, 23 January 2018, 07:32 PM

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grog

Agree Col, new are nice. replacing worn angel on front with new is just awesome. changing from pr2 way back, rode them from new, angels were far better. i know the pr2 were old tech by todays standard. i wouldnt mix brands or models in same brand, just not what id do. as for lower spec tyres, no chinese tyres for me. bridgys, michs, pirelli, metzler, dunlop, all top of the tree stuff. just what suits you. i remember couple of years ago t30 bridgys were going to be everybodys choice, anyone use them now.

Notty

Quote from: gsxbarmy on Monday, 05 February  2018, 07:13 PM
Looks like the T31 to me!!

https://www.bridgestone.com/products/motorcycle_tires/products/model/result.html?c%5BBike.maker_code%5D=SUZUKI&c%5BBike.displacement%5D=SUZUKI%3A%3A1400&c%5BBike.bike_name_e%5D=SUZUKI%3A%3A1400%3A%3AGSX1400+%282001-%29&c%5BBike.bike_model%5D=SUZUKI%3A%3A1400%3A%3AGSX1400+%282001-%29%3A%3AGY71A

Although if you have a BT021 on the front, the rubber must be getting a bit hardened off now, whether it has tread on it or not, I would seriously think of changing both to new rubber - BT021 was never that good in its day anyway for grip esp in the wet.

For what a new tyre costs - and often they are cheaper as a pair anyway - worth thinking about
My 14 had 2.5K on it when i bought it 2 years ago-the MOT tester mentioned the tread was fine but that I should be concerned on the age of the tyre (suspected to be original fit and 11 years old)-Dave made the same warning so I changed to PR4's What a difference  :smile2:
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Andre

According to Bridgestone Deutschland you can mix  BT021, BT023, T30 und T30 EVO

I couldn't find the document on the Bridgestone site. Attached a screenshot from what I found on a dealer's site.

German laws and rules are very picky about what you can put on your bike. Manufacturers have to certify tires for each model. Considering the high (legal) speeds you can ride on the Autobahn this makes sense to me.

Sweaty

Quote from: Mister Fishfinger on Monday, 05 February  2018, 06:54 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Monday, 05 February  2018, 06:42 PM
Aren't they doing BT030 now though?  Never tried them, has anyone?

Actually I am looking for suggestions. My bike has a BT021 on the rear and it is looking really squared off now. Thing is, there is an almost-new BT021 on the front so I'm thinking I should stick to Bridgestone on the rear for now so that they match.

So could I put a BT023 on the rear? Or even a BT030, which to be honest I didn't even know existed.

As you won't be putting a matching 021 on the back, I would make a change & go for a pirelli or Michy this time, but that is only because I didn't like the Bridgestone.

Andre

Quote from: gsxbarmy on Monday, 05 February  2018, 07:13 PM
Looks like the T31 to me!!

https://www.bridgestone.com/products/motorcycle_tires/products/model/result.html?c%5BBike.maker_code%5D=SUZUKI&c%5BBike.displacement%5D=SUZUKI%3A%3A1400&c%5BBike.bike_name_e%5D=SUZUKI%3A%3A1400%3A%3AGSX1400+%282001-%29&c%5BBike.bike_model%5D=SUZUKI%3A%3A1400%3A%3AGSX1400+%282001-%29%3A%3AGY71A

Although if you have a BT021 on the front, the rubber must be getting a bit hardened off now, whether it has tread on it or not, I would seriously think of changing both to new rubber - BT021 was never that good in its day anyway for grip esp in the wet.

For what a new tyre costs - and often they are cheaper as a pair anyway - worth thinking about

The T31 is a No-Go for the 14. Bridgestone Germany clearly says on their website that it does "not fit" the 14.

I did find (took me a while as my coffee-level was a bit low :happy1: )the link on their site with the most up-to-date certification document for all the Bridgestone tires certified for the 14. http://bridgestone.azureedge.net/~/media/Files/Bridgestone/MC/Homologation/Suzuki/GSX1400_WVBN.ashx?vs=1&d=20161223T102806&la=de-de

grog

not bike tyres but car/4wd. weve just started using roadstone. 2 factories in china, one in korea. excellent tyres, have fitted to my car. said before i wouldnt fit chinese tyres to bike, great on car. bottom line is they are michelins with a diff name. factories owned by michelin. would you pay double to have michelin stamped on them, they sure grip in wet, all i care about with car tyres. if you could buy roadstone bike tyres as good as pr4, would you try at 1/2 the price. im not sure. if my mate tried, gave thumbs up, think i would.

Mister Fishfinger

Thanks for the tips gentlemen.

The only reason I wanted to stay with Bridgestone is because the front is almost new. Not my choice, the PO fitted it just before I bought it (allegedly). I can see the logic of changing both at the same time but it just seems such a waste.

According to the Bridgestone site, S21 is recommended fitment for the 14 now. That came out in 2016, so a bit newer.

Mister Fishfinger

So I did a bit more checking tonight. The front tire was manufactured in week 43 of 2016 - not too bad - but the rear was made in week 24 of 2010!

That's one of the hazards of buying a low mileage bike I guess. Looks like I'm doing some shopping this weekend.

seth

my black/red 14 had done 6500 miles when i got it in 2016 still had the original BT021's on .
they were ok in the dry but almost un-rideable in the wet to the point of being dangerous.
2 new tyres were brought the next day.
the BT021's had loads of tread but no grip.

:cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

Sethbot Postwhore

Sweaty

"The front tire was manufactured in week 43 of 2016 - not too bad"

I see where your coming from, as the tyre is not old & hard.

Buddynq

Quote from: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 23 January  2018, 08:31 PM
Im still using PR4's and getting 12-15k also.
Cannot remember his handle but a fella was looking at Metzlers as they were on Superbike School bikes. Anyone on Metzlers?

Sorry to crash your thread Grog  :cheers:

Yea Fruity - I was really happy with the Metzelers at the Super Bike School. They get 1 track day out of them and believe it or not (when its dry) they reverse the tyre to get another day out of them.
I have been an Angel fan for a few years but threw PR4 on couple years ago - Hated the tread pattern on front - went back to Angels.

Got around 11,000km on the front over 8 months. The right side always wears way way quicker than the left. Not sure if the camber of the road or all the roundabouts here.

Recently (December) put Metzeler Roadtec on front and as mentioned by some I have noticed that it is noisy - like a whistling sound, probly wind. My riding is Commute to work during week (200km/wk) and most weekends about 300km doing the ranges so I am looking for that dual compound that suits a fair bit of upright riding. Most of the guys I ride the ranges with are on Metzelers also but the more sticky ones. They on sport bikes and get about 5,000km but only do the weekend fun stuff.

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