Angel GT

[gsxbarmy]

Metzler's are good - but I prefer Michelin in all honesty.

[taximan]

Looking to buy new tyres soon and after some research on here decided on Pirelli Angel

Went into local bike shop last week for a quote on rear tyre. He phoned the agent for a price on Pirelli Angel GT's. Agent said why the GT, they are £160 and the ST is only £106. He said only difference is the tread mark.

[seth]

the ST's are good tyres but the GT's are better in many ways but mostly in wet grip and milages they give.
I get about 35%more miles out of a set of GT's.

[taximan]

Cheers Seth, I will go for the GT's then.
I never listen too much to salesmen, obviously they need to get rid of the old stock.

[seth]

i ran gt's for for a few years untill the gt's came out i wouldn't go back now.

[taximan]

i ran gt's for for a few years untill the gt's came out i wouldn't go back now.

Presume you mean ST's first then GT's after.
So approx 30% dearer but extra 35% mileage. one more or less equals the other on price per miles but is there any/much difference in performance ??

[seth]

yes you were in quick i edited that post when i read it back.
yes the GT's feel much better in the wet and more stable at high speed when loaded up and more grip in the dry when chucking the big 14 about on fast A&B roads.
i get them for the better mileage as we do lots of motorway miles over in europe fully loaded.
in the spring in the uk for yhe last few years.
pirelli has had a deal so you can get a pair fitted for under £200

[Doc_Rossi46]

My next set will be Angel GT's. I just like the idea that myself and my bike will be looked after by angels. .... Hmmm!!! ok I'm not a girl      Anyway .... A question for my fellow UK riders. Does my number plate require a makers stamp or label?

[seth]

uk number plates have to be a certain size and the letters do as well but nothing else dealer names or things like that.
most places who make numberplates do put a mark to say its the correct standard but normally on the back.
saying that ive not actually brought a new number plate for a while.

[Doc_Rossi46]

uk number plates have to be a certain size and the letters do as well but nothing else dealer names or things like that.
most places who make numberplates do put a mark to say its the correct standard but normally on the back.
saying that ive not actually brought a new number plate for a while.

Thanks Seth  I was just wondering because I got a new plate, standard size, standard letters. But it has a Lion Rampant and a border. So thanks for clearing it up for me. Though I'm sure if anything is wrong with it ... I may see some distant flashing blue lights in my mirrors 

[seth]

if you see blue lights change down a vouple of gears and say bye bye 

[gsxbarmy]

uk number plates have to be a certain size and the letters do as well but nothing else dealer names or things like that.
most places who make numberplates do put a mark to say its the correct standard but normally on the back.
saying that ive not actually brought a new number plate for a while.

Actually whilst UK number plates are normally 9" x 7" its actually a myth that they have to be that size. The law states that the font must be of a certain type and size as must be the spacing - including the spacing to the edge of the number plate (so sometimes having a border arguably contravenes the law). Also for motorcycles the numbering must be of two layers - so those who run letterbox plates are contravening the law. The spacing, font and font size of the letters and numbers determine the plate size to be used. For the UK, 2 alpha, 2 numeric and 3 alpha this generally works out as a 9" x 7" plate

Number plates also must be BS approved and have an identified mark of the person and place where the number plate was made (many places now either do this to advertise, or, they stamp it into the perspex leaving it clear - so meet the law, but no visible signs. Generally most use name and post code as identifying marks.

Extract from UK law:
Motorcycles and tricycles
There are separate rules for motorcycles and tricycles.
Motorcycles registered from 1 September 2001 must only display a number plate at the back of the vehicle.
Motorcycles registered before 1 September 2001 can display a number plate at the front, but do not have to.
The characters on the number plate must be set out over two lines and must be displayed on all motorcycles registered on or after 1 January 1973.
Tricycles made from four-wheeled bodies, such as saloon cars and quad bikes, must meet the normal requirements on page 9.
Tricycles built from motorcycles must meet the rules for motorcycles shown below.
- Characters must be 64mm tall
- Characters (except the number 1 or letter I) must be 44mm wide
- The character stroke (the thickness of the black print) must be 10mm
- The space between characters must be 10mm
- The space between the age identifier and the random letters must be 30mm
- The margins at the top, bottom and side of the plate must be at least 11mm
- Vertical space between the age identifier and the random numbers must be 13mm

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/533255/inf104-vehicle-registration-numbers-and-number-plates.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-registration-numbers-and-number-plates

As you will see - nothing on actual size of the plate itself - the letters, spacing etc determines the minimum for that

[seth]

cheers for that barmy

[Doc_Rossi46]

uk number plates have to be a certain size and the letters do as well but nothing else dealer names or things like that.
most places who make numberplates do put a mark to say its the correct standard but normally on the back.
saying that ive not actually brought a new number plate for a while.

Actually whilst UK number plates are normally 9" x 7" its actually a myth that they have to be that size. The law states that the font must be of a certain type and size as must be the spacing - including the spacing to the edge of the number plate (so sometimes having a border arguably contravenes the law). Also for motorcycles the numbering must be of two layers - so those who run letterbox plates are contravening the law. The spacing, font and font size of the letters and numbers determine the plate size to be used. For the UK, 2 alpha, 2 numeric and 3 alpha this generally works out as a 9" x 7" plate

Number plates also must be BS approved and have an identified mark of the person and place where the number plate was made (many places now either do this to advertise, or, they stamp it into the perspex leaving it clear - so meet the law, but no visible signs. Generally most use name and post code as identifying marks.

Extract from UK law:
Motorcycles and tricycles
There are separate rules for motorcycles and tricycles.
Motorcycles registered from 1 September 2001 must only display a number plate at the back of the vehicle.
Motorcycles registered before 1 September 2001 can display a number plate at the front, but do not have to.
The characters on the number plate must be set out over two lines and must be displayed on all motorcycles registered on or after 1 January 1973.
Tricycles made from four-wheeled bodies, such as saloon cars and quad bikes, must meet the normal requirements on page 9.
Tricycles built from motorcycles must meet the rules for motorcycles shown below.
- Characters must be 64mm tall
- Characters (except the number 1 or letter I) must be 44mm wide
- The character stroke (the thickness of the black print) must be 10mm
- The space between characters must be 10mm
- The space between the age identifier and the random letters must be 30mm
- The margins at the top, bottom and side of the plate must be at least 11mm
- Vertical space between the age identifier and the random numbers must be 13mm

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/533255/inf104-vehicle-registration-numbers-and-number-plates.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-registration-numbers-and-number-plates

As you will see - nothing on actual size of the plate itself - the letters, spacing etc determines the minimum for that

.  I Thank you barmy. Exactly what I needed to know 

[Eric GSX1400K3]

I'm also up for new tyres, a) rear is worn. b) front is worn assymetrically (all the bloody roundabouts here in WA) and c) both tyres are >6 years old, came with the bike when I bought it.  Bike had 32,000kms on when it ended up in my garage, Ive put 5000kms on it since, and I don't know how many ks the current set has seen.

~20,000kms from a M/C tyre is pretty good, considering its the only contact with the road and we all put our faith in that contact patch.

I was quoted A$500 for a set of Michelin P4's, however I like the Angel GT's too.

Any thoughts on other suitable sport-tourer tyres?

Comments appreciated