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Started by lawrie, Tuesday, 15 August 2017, 05:12 PM

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Blubber

What brand plugs were they ?


I've had new Ngk's fail on me before
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lawrie

NGK CR8EK new in boxes.  C=10mm thread,  R= reistor plug,  8= heat range, E= thread length 19mm, & K= twin electrodes.

The BIG mystery is that they DID work & have only done less than 10 miles as I don't actually use the bike, now all 4 failed at the same time????
I DO have to grow old, I DO NOT have to grow up.

KiwiCol

Bung those plugs into your other 14 & you'll soon see if it's them.
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Tony Nitrous

It may not be directly related to this thread, but I know a while back there were "Fake" NGK plugs coming out of China.

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lawrie

Quote from: KiwiCol on Monday, 28 August  2017, 04:29 AM
Bung those plugs into your other 14 & you'll soon see if it's them.

I did, & they don't!!
I did mention the fact 3 or 4 posts ago. :grin:
I DO have to grow old, I DO NOT have to grow up.

lawrie

Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Monday, 28 August  2017, 04:39 AM
It may not be directly related to this thread, but I know a while back there were "Fake" NGK plugs coming out of China.
Yeah Tony, I did wonder about that myself, but to be honest, they LOOK OK.
I DO have to grow old, I DO NOT have to grow up.

Andre

Odd indeed. Glad you sorted it out (hopefully). Looks can be deceiving. Them fakers can be very good. Haven't heard of anything killing all plugs at once. So, I asked my good friend google "killing spark plugs". Immediately found a post where where a guy had this issue all 4 new NGK dead. Fitted the old ones - engine runs. He got another set of plugs and engine didn't start. He put another old? coil in and engine starts with the new plugs.

Who knows if it was a bad coil killing the plugs or fake plugs killing the coil, I don't. But definitely would get my next plug from a "reputable" (for sure a different) dealer and test the crap out of the coils.

Added: And use Tony's above image and the old plugs to check if you got non-fakes.

KiwiCol

Quote from: lawrie on Monday, 28 August  2017, 04:40 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Monday, 28 August  2017, 04:29 AM
Bung those plugs into your other 14 & you'll soon see if it's them.

I did, & they don't!!
I did mention the fact 3 or 4 posts ago. :grin:
Sorry Lawrie, when I looked at it this morning (6.30am) I missed all of the additions to this thread & just read the ones on the new page.  my error.
😎  Always looking for the next corner.  😎

Hooli

Nice one, I've not heard of four plugs failing together before either.

Tickover should be 1,100rpm. But I run mine nearer 1,000rpm as I find it a touch nicer for creeping through traffic.

RickC

I had a similar problem with too cold a plug  being fitted. The ceramic insulator gets coated in unburnt fuel which provides a short to earth bypassing the plug gap. You can burn it off with a cigarette lighter but I would bin the plugs. You may be creating the problem by not getting the plugs hot enough when you kick it over.

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