Replacing wheel, sprocket carrier, swing arm bearings etc etc.

[Irish in Oz]

How do you lot kill the crush drives? Mine are still fine.

Probably stuffed carrier or/and wheel bearings, I check these every time the wheel is off, so that's at least every 10,000 klm's.

[Nic]

Thought I should measure the alum I used for the shims. It's around .8mm
It's an old oven tray I think. Steel would work just as well, go to your local dump and have a scrounge around.

[Irish in Oz]

35 to 40 quid for genuine rubbers, I would be putting in new one's, if they don't fit tight you have a serious problem.

[BbigMmac]

I've started a new thread regarding doing some work to my K7.
The plan is to check and replace if needed front and rear wheel bearings, sprocket carrier bearings and swingarm bearings/grease.
Because I need new tyres I figured I'd go over everything that can impact the ride, I'm not too worried about steering head bearing and grease so I won't be looking at that right now.
I also decided to replace the chain and sprockets even though I'm not sure if they need changing, I'm gonna do it anyway, cleaning off the old chain with all that goop from the spray lubes, I'm not inspired to do it, rather replace the lot. While I'm at the front sprocket I thought I'd put in that Clutch slave dust cover mod. I imagine there will be quite a bit of cleaning back there and yes, I'll attend to the push rod so as to look after the seal on the R/H side, the dreaded one.
As some will be aware, I ordered all the bearings from Wemoto and now know that they sell either All Balls or Slinkey Glide bearings, now we've all heard of Slinky Glide right Well maybe not, anyway I decided that I would not use them and bought Koyo brand bearings.
Most of what I need is still in the post and some not even in the post yet but today I received the Koyo sprocket carrier bearing and thought I'd start this thread off by showing you a pic comparing the All Balls to the Koyo.

The one on the right is the All Balls, you can plainly see the Koyo has bigger balls, need I say more.
So now it seems obvious why the All Balls dies prematurely.
More to come as the work commences once ALL the parts are here.
So far I have the Carrier bearing and seal, the clutch slave dust cover and front wheel seals.
I bought another oil can and just received 1 litre of Castrol VMX 80W.
The tyres should be here tomorrow or Friday. The wheel bearings I bought from some place that now tells me they are out of stock so how long I wait for those is anyone's guess, don't you hate when you think you are buying something only to find out AFTER you give em the dough, they don't Fu#%#^* have them.
Also something strange going on with the chain kit as well, no idea when that will arrive, so far tracking says " shipping information received " great, Oz post doesn't even have the thing even after I emailed the bloke after hearing nothing for some days, he says sorry, he's been away and will "Express" it out asap, the next day I get tracking number, that was 3 days ago.
Originally I rang my usual bearing place but they had nothing, this is why I've had to buy online, go the 21st century. Wait til it's all cashless, that's another story.
So the whole thing is dragging out big time, I thought while I wait, I'll start the thread now just to  show the diff between the two Carrier bearings.

Nice job Nic, when you start it seems like a big job but when you are finished and get riding again it was all worth it. Did mine ( chain / sprockets, bearings and swingarm ) last winter and recognized some of you issues also. Results are very satisfying.

[Nic]

Nice job Nic, when you start it seems like a big job but when you are finished and get riding again it was all worth it. Did mine ( chain / sprockets, bearings and swingarm ) last winter and recognized some of you issues also. Results are very satisfying.

Thanks Mac, yep, very rewarding indeed. I learned one good lesson. If you're going to do your own tyres, make it a separate job.

[Eric GSX1400K3]

For reference I looked up the oem part for the cush rubbers at the mick hone website.  $100 AUD for the set of 5.

[Tony Nitrous]

For reference I looked up the oem part for the cush rubbers at the mick hone website.  $100 AUD for the set of 5.

The heavy duty Busa ones are quite popular, there's 2 sorts, Gen-1 99-07 and Gen-2 08-20.   I don't have a 14 set at hand but it'd be interesting if either fit a 14 as the Busa ones do fit some other models.

https://robbushmotorsports.ecwid.com/Heavy-Duty-Rear-Wheel-Cush-Drive-Dampers-Hayabusa-99-07-p185334928


https://store.schnitzracing.com/schnitz-rear-wheel-cush-drive-dampers-suzuki-hayabusa-08-20/

[Eric GSX1400K3]

1400 part no is 64651 35F00, the Busa is 35F20, so would be a different size, shape, etc.  Thx for checking though.

[Irish in Oz]

1400 has 5 rubbers Busa has 6.

[Tony Nitrous]

1400 has 5 rubbers Busa has 6.

As I posted above, there are 2 different sorts. This is the more popular 08-20 Busa and B-King wheel...



Not saying they'll fit a 14 but they have 5 and have the same fitment as some other Suzuki's.

As has been shown before part numbers not matching is a good guide but not a guarantee. Next time I have the 14 wheel out I'll check them side by side and know for sure.

I think the Gen-2 Busa and B-King cush drive rubbers have different part numbers too, although the wheels are identical.

[Eric GSX1400K3]

Compatibility listing from Mick Hone:

[Eric GSX1400K3]

1400 has 5 rubbers Busa has 6.

As I posted above, there are 2 different sorts. This is the more popular 08-20 Busa and B-King wheel...



Not saying they'll fit a 14 but they have 5 and have the same fitment as some other Suzuki's.

As has been shown before part numbers not matching is a good guide but not a guarantee. Next time I have the 14 wheel out I'll check them side by side and know for sure.

I think the Gen-2 Busa and B-King cush drive rubbers have different part numbers too, although the wheels are identical.

definitely looks the same as the 1400 cush recesses.

[grog]

You 14 riders must ride hard. Cush blocks in mine still look/fit like new. Guess i need to turn the throttle harder. 

[Hooli]

I must ride like a wuss too Grog, nowt wrong with my crush rubbers either.

[SpongeBob]

1400 has 5 rubbers Busa has 6.

As I posted above, there are 2 different sorts. This is the more popular 08-20 Busa and B-King wheel...



Not saying they'll fit a 14 but they have 5 and have the same fitment as some other Suzuki's.

As has been shown before part numbers not matching is a good guide but not a guarantee. Next time I have the 14 wheel out I'll check them side by side and know for sure.

I think the Gen-2 Busa and B-King cush drive rubbers have different part numbers too, although the wheels are identical.

definitely looks the same as the 1400 cush recesses.

I fitted those red ones for 08-20 Busas, from Schnitz Racing. It's not strictly speaking a 'straight fit':

  - the overall size and shape is fine -- which is good

  - the Busas' dampers don't have the central 'nipple' that prevents the damper to possibly fall off when removing the sprocket carrier -- which is not a problem as it's bit of a pig to remove the '14s dampers sometimes.

  - the Busas' have small 'nipples' on each side close to the outer side of the damper. These should be cut-out for the damper to fully fit in the '14 wheel. As you can see in the Busa's wheel, there is a recess in the bottom of each damper 'slot', which is not there in the '14 wheel.

  - this is a *very* tight fit and rubber is quite harder: be prepared to have a bit of hard times to fully refitting the sprockets carrier