Alarm Bypass

[urbanus]

Hi all, a bit of a vague question at the moment but before I delve in with the side cutters I thought I would see if anyone can point me in the right direction. 
So....I picked up a 2003 1400 from my brother in law who owned it from new and only did 4500kms with it!  After servicing it and derusting the tank all is well with the old girl however it has some sort of Meta alarm on it (don't now which one yet and he can't remember and I can't see the label until I get going with the aforementioned side cutters.  I think its a 357 however.
The question is (got there eventually) anybody know how to bypass the bloody thing!  Its working at the moment but its 20 years old and I understand the batteries are non replaceable and only last 10 years (must have been just the last 10 not the first 10) so I know its going to do me over the moment I am away from home and its raining and I have forgotten my wallet, phone etc so am properly up the creek.
Anyway, I don't like alarms, even the best are next to useless compared to a decent lock so I would like to get it off before it stuffs me.
Cheers
David

[KiwiCol]

I've no idea on how to remove those, but I agree, it's a damn good idea to get it off the bike.   There are a few UK members that have done this, so help won't be too far away.  Good luck, and don't cut the red wire . . .

[Stepdoug]

You can buy an item off flebay that bypass,s the system it's about £20
Will see if I can put a link in for it. Meta Motorcycle Bypass Plug For The M357 Or M357T & Gemel E587
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[Stepdoug]

283915473408 item number.
The guy works for a Yamaha dealer Colchester.
If this is what you're looking for
Saves taking all the wires out of the bike

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283915473408?hash=item421aae5200:g:GicAAOSwSdFe55J4&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoDX23%2FOLFmVjp2981SPhG6oimsfTm1ooNbcOsZo8aC63iPR3rjhta3V4ON81S7jS53dH4K1i8GZsx0mUuET5BaZwJjbKzmiHkcUZZzmdUTOJ0G1fdGncd4lwnH%2FaoDVeOf80IqLRs19Ya%2BlVu4duDZZGJBREymk9i30LCuH7q6KPKVzK%2BrTO%2FCCJW%2FULw1%2Bjxz5UKI%2FV3NVYGED9%2F5bPw%2BI%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5SF4fXTYQ

[Hooli]

Trace the wires back from the alarm & join all the same colour ones to each other. Took me about an hour to remove an alarm from an ex's 14 when the internal battery died & it wouldn't disarm.

[Notty]

Always cut the red wire - it woks for Tom Cruise 

[urbanus]

Thanks to everybody for the help/advise/etc.  I will see if the chap on eBay will ship to France and I might have a look at the wiring as well, just in case he doesn't.

In the meantime where are me cutters - I'm off to find that bloody red wire people keep telling me about

[Nic]

Trace the wires back from the alarm & join all the same colour ones to each other. Took me about an hour to remove an alarm from an ex's 14 when the internal battery died & it wouldn't disarm.

Can you elaborate a little mate. Do you just unplug the module, cut off the connector and join the same coloured wires together?
I saw a vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xc_dDkuT-0 where one guy with a Honda of some kind just jumpered 2 pairs of wires and she was good to go. It's a pretty convoluted video but at the end he shows how to do it, Probably different for the 14? dunno.
I'm keen to get mine out before it shafts me.
So any further info would be appreciated, thanks.

Well FFS, I was just out having a look, had the seat off and both side covers, can't find it, can you tell us where it is located?
Later:
I found another thread where I now read that the thing is to be found up the back near the tail light etc and that you trace the black wires back into the loom until they become coloured wires and then you join the pairs. Sounds easy enough, now I'm wondering if I should just leave well enough alone or have at it?
Even Later:
Rightio then, looks like mine has already been done, there are two unused sockets back there, one with 4 black wires, the other with one black wire, the harness has been cut down the side about a foots worth and glued up. So what a lot of hooie that was. Good to know it's done though.

So: just to try and help the OP, this is a pretty simple job, I wouldn't waste money on that bypass thing, just pull the tool kit, razor blade the harness til the black wires turn into colours and join the pairs. Pretty simple. I don't know what happens to the single black wire, maybe it's a V+ always on? You'll find out when you get into it.

[Mick_J]

I think that the bypass plug mentioned by stepdoug will only work on OEM alarms fitted as a factory option, as there was no option on the 14 I suspect its been wired in so the only way to get rid of it is the hard way.  Trace ever black wire from the alarm to where it splices into the loom and mark it with masking tape.  When two black wires seem to go to the same place and splice into two wires the same colour, join them.  The best joint will be if you slip on two bits of heat shrink, (one down each wire, one shorter than the other) and join by a soldered joint the slip the short heat shrink over and repeat with the longer bit.

[Hooli]

Just a thought. If the alarm has been fitted correctly to Thatcham specs you'll need to add wire back into the loom, not that I've ever seen a professionally fitted one done properly like that. The rules say cut a bit from the loom so you can't just rejoin the original wires, which makes sense as it's harder for a thief to bypass.

[Stepdoug]

I think that the bypass plug mentioned by stepdoug will only work on OEM alarms fitted as a factory option, as there was no option on the 14 I suspect its been wired in so the only way to get rid of it is the hard way.  Trace ever black wire from the alarm to where it splices into the loom and mark it with masking tape.  When two black wires seem to go to the same place and splice into two wires the same colour, join them.  The best joint will be if you slip on two bits of heat shrink, (one down each wire, one shorter than the other) and join by a soldered joint the slip the short heat shrink over and repeat with the longer bit.

Mine has the meta 357t fitted to it.
Don't think any of them came with factory fitted. (Could be wrong though ).
I know they had the immobilizer fitted after a certain year. ( That was factory )
So they surely would all be aftermarket fitted. ?
Even if they were fitted by a dealer ?

[gsxbarmy]

AFAIK whilst there was a power wire running up to under the tail piece to give provision for a factory alarm, certainly in the European market, I don't believe that Suzuki actually ever offered a factory alarm option.

[urbanus]

I started to have a proper look at this today because I need to get it sorted and crack on some miles. 

It is a M356 Rev .02.  Its a European spec bike and he bought the bike new in 2003 but he can't remember having the alarm fitted! Its mounted just under the seat lock where the tool kit is.
I suddenly have a strange fault with it though - I'm pretty sure the unit is goosed because it doesn't make any noises, flash any indicators or basically do anything.  Its clearly wired to the bike but doesn't seem to stop it working - well.....I don't think its stopping the bike working because today suddenly the bike won't run when I put it in gear.  To be clear, the bike starts fine but as soon as I put it in gear the engine cuts.  I thought this could be a problem with the side stand switch so metered it and found that it gives a reading of about 350 ohms (it varies a little) when I press the striker.  It reads infinity when not engaged.  I tried bridging the the connection in case the 350 ohms was too high but get exactly the same problem.
Before I start chasing out the bike alarm wiring, is this normal behaviour with these alarms when they start to play up?

[urbanus]

I forgot to mention, I took the side stand switch off to have a look.  I sprayed the actuator part with some WD40 and actuated it a few times - didn't seem to make any difference.

[seth]

Hope you refitted the sidestand switch as without it and ir the clutch seitch they run a different lower power starting map and can run quite poorly