Just about to take my bike to the suspension guru.

[Nic]

Well it stopped raining for about 10 minutes so I took the bike out, started raining again when I was about 5 Ks from home, anyway the good news is the vibrations are gone, don't know for sure what it was, redoing all the pinch bolts and or backing off the comp and rebound?
Apart from redoing the oil air gap there's nothing more to do. The bumps are still the bumps and always will be.
I need to ride the bike more to get acquainted with the new springs and fine tune the comp and rebound but I reckon taking out the extra oil will be a good thing and that will require removing the forks to make sure how much is in there 
This is why I paid someone else to do it

[Hooli]

That's why I try to do everything myself too, I always end up redoing it afterwards so it's right if I pay anyone.

[grog]

Ipay for tyre fitting only. Yes i did get forks/shockies done. Rest is just me. Forks were worth money, so sad not for you Nic. I fix cars all day , everyday,s ometimes hard to get motivated to fix my stuff, not a hobby, just a chore. I get it it done, eventually.

[Nic]

Ipay for tyre fitting only. Yes i did get forks/shockies done. Rest is just me. Forks were worth money, so sad not for you Nic. I fix cars all day , everyday,s ometimes hard to get motivated to fix my stuff, not a hobby, just a chore. I get it it done, eventually.

Everyone has their story mate. I could have spent my life as a bike mechanic, I did music instead and never had a pot to piss in the whole journey. Made a bit o dough for EMI 
Doesn't bother me now though, livin the dream in cootdom 

[Nic]

Alrighty then, I have just finished the forks, first thing I notice is the oil, while not black, it's the next best thing, he's probably/ more than likely used my old oil, brilliant, two year old oil, two years ago I had the forks completely apart and cleaned when I did the seals so they ain't full of crud. Oil doesn't go that colour in 2 freakin days. 
Next the gap was 115mil, so that's 15mil more oil than the recommended 130 mil gap from Race Tech.
So as per usual, a good thing I had a look myself, FFS, if I had known all this drama was going to take place I could have bought the springs and new oil and it would have cost me half and only needing doing once.
On a positive note, the first time I did the fork seals I had a hell of a time screwing in the axle, the folks here said to have all the pinch bolts and guard bolts and caliper bolts loose, and today with that great advice the axle went in like a breeze.
Oh well, another day of rain in this summer of rain so no test ride today. Bring on the footy and MotoGp. We actually had the heater on last night.
I was going to put new brake pads in but when I compared the new ones with the old there isn't a lot of difference so I didn't change them, still need to check the rear though.
So I spose this is the end of this lesson well learned, another case of " if you want it don't right"

[Nic]

Just one more thing, I asked him what oil he put in and he hesitated for a second and then mumbled Motul, pretty sure that's what he said, looked a bit sheepish as well.
So he's just dropped himself right in it there.
Suspension Smith, forget about it.

[grog]

Mate, did he actually do anything? Valves n springs installed? Id be getting someone to do a review, facebook type. Needs shutting down. What a disgraceful frogwit. I hate that sort of shit with passion. 😡😡

[Nic]

As far as the valves go, he said he shimmed the stock ones, it went over my head but you gotta wonder again don't you.
My mate with the Triumph rocket was very happy with his work, throwing hands in air, shaking head, I'm at a loss.
Glad it's over. I'll need to change the oil in the next 12 months.
I just write it off as, he saw me coming 
I did get new springs though, they are quite hefty. He forgot also to give me the old ones back.

[Eric GSX1400K3]

Glad you have checked and sorting out the issues.  Sorry to hear about the cruddy workmanship,  I'd be naming and shaming high and low, leaving a detailed and frank review.  Can you try to get your money back? 

[Nic]

Thanks for the sympathy, getting the money back? Not bloody likely me thinks, he did supply and fit the springs, the fact that he put the old oil back in and damaged the adjusters, can you get a refund for that? 
I must say, the main reason I had someone else do it was so they could set the bike up for me, that turned out to be a joke.
The "setup" I was left with was in totally the wrong direction, I have to wonder about that.
Of course, on his site he offers a $50 setup, I have to wonder what you get for that and how many have fallen prey to it. Obviously from my experience, you'd pay 50 bucks to set the static sag in the front only. Bargain really  Of course, his time must be extremely valuable 
Life goes on, I got the heavier springs, I'm fully aware of the state of things up front and I got kicked up the arse one more time, can't complain 
I now know that setting up your suspension is a matter for each of us to figure out what's best and not throw money away, when you think about it, who's the best person to know how to set up your bike, it's just a matter of thinking about it, after my experience I now realize that there ain't a lot to it and there'll always be compromise. Plus, I had more practice removing the forks and putting them back so next time I redo the oil it won't be such a drudgery.
Well I think that's enough of me trying to convince myself that the lesson was well worth it, time for a Bourbon n Coke.
Life's a funny thing isn't it 

                                                    This from his site.

Suspension Smith offers great value in it's $50 set up For your money, you get: Time spent with Laurie to discuss your particular riding style and the kinds of riding you do. He weighs and measures you and then measures up your bike Laurie then adjusts your standard suspension (within the limits of what's available)

[Roo]

take it as a lesson learnt bud.  (get those springs back from him as well,who knows youmay need them?)

I was keen to hear and see a result but wasn't hopeful for you. (I don;t care who they are no one gets to touch or alter my susp.)

Good luck, remember record everything and only click or adjust one thing at a time.You'll be fine.

[GSXKING]

Reusing the oil is not on. The old springs are probably in his collection now. 

[Nic]

I will be going back to get the old springs, any excuse for a ride. I just don't like the idea of him asking me how the bike is, I don't want to upset myself mainly n so I'll just say it's great n get on the bike asap.
I'll ring him Monday to make sure he keeps them for me.
Unless he finds his way to this thread he won't know I know he duded me with the oil. You're right though Chris, using the old oil is pretty lame.
I prefer to put it all behind me but I do want the old springs.
Funny how my mate with the Rocket 3 is so bloody happy with his work though.
Of course, I wonder if he got new oil, he won't know and neither will most of his other victims.

[Eric GSX1400K3]

I'd still try, teach him a lesson to stop ripping people off.

We recently had a new set of tyres fitted to our Jeep GC at a national, reputable tyre franchise, they price matched a competitor, and we went to them as they have looked after our daughter's cars as well.  They managed to lift the car on the wrong points on the chassis (they used the sub frame mounting plates instead of the designated jacking points) they now have to pay to have both sub frame plates replaced.  Not a huge sum of money, but the point is they damaged our property.  They originally didn't want to acknowledge their fault, but when I made them check their trolley jack heads against the marks on the subframe, there was little doubt.

[Nic]

Haha, maybe 20 years ago I might have gone off, one good thing about getting old"er" (I'll be 68 on the 15th of this month ) is that I can finally let things go rather than chewing on them, I like it.
I just rang Laurie, I'll be "riding" into Canberra on Wed, the only non rain day this week, to pick up the old springs.
Looking forward to the ride, see how she goes with the less oil.