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Is a power commander worth it?

Started by mikesaa309, Wednesday, 16 September 2020, 02:31 AM

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Eric GSX1400K3

"Power is nothing without control", the PC def improves throttle response, fuel economy and rideability. 

System is not complete and will not provide many noticeable improvements without aftermarket exhaust, different camshafts and dyno time.

So PC+Akra+Yoshi cams+Dyno time =  :boogie:

Just PC on a stock bike =  :whatever:
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

Irish in Oz


Hooli


Irish in Oz


mikesaa309

Don't think I'll get a PC. Suppose only gain would be fuel and also if it can have full amount of torque in the lower gears. I very rarely use the the power of the GSX as it is though on the odd occasion wish it had 120 odd hp.

VladTepes

Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Wednesday, 16 September  2020, 09:28 PM
So PC+Akra+Yoshi cams+Dyno time =  :boogie:

PC - check.
Akra - full system - check
Yoshi Stage 1 cams - check
Dyno time (well, no but using a map from an identically outfitted 1400)

Is it better? I dunno, I've never ridden it with no PC or Akro.
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GSXKING

If you have to spend all that lovely lucre and there is no discernable difference is it really worth it.  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
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Chris
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Donatello

I fitted an Akrapovic system on mine and I could smell the unburned fuel when standing behind it. After fitting a PC-V AND getting a remap on a rolling road (without the PC-V is worthless) it runs more responsive, revs more freely and I have a better fuel economy (40km on a full tank more). The fact you can get the engine running at its best performance without running rich or lean in certain rpm ranges is worth the money in my opinion.

V_i_c_i

Look from other side. I have K7 with full akra, yoshi ST1, PCV with autotune, quick reaction throttle and so on. Fuel map is tuned by me (it took a lot of time and miles).
Sometimes I service the standard GSX1400 K2 which belongs to my friend. And when I'm doing a test drive ot that standard K2 I can only say one thing as a first feeling .... has no power.

E: But PC III or PC V itself is in my opinion a waste of money ....

Big Phil

Oh come on Vici a standard K2 GSX1400 has no power!!! My K2 is completely standard and has more power than is safe to use legally on any European road. I have ridden a number of bikes on track, have a GSXR750 for track days in my garage and have owned an Aprilia RSV1000R until quite recently. My K2 will match any of those bikes from a standing start up to 60mph (100kph) and some. No standard 14 in good working order lacks power💪🏋️‍♀️

V_i_c_i

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I knew there would be anger on my head, but that feeling won't change.
If I change directly one motorcycle to another, then simply the standard one does not run and has no power against the modified one.
This is not to say that the standard gsx1400 is going badly.
Now you can hang me, but that feeling and experience just won't change anything. Like my friend's smile when I lend him mine.  :hat:

E: The same feeling would be felt by someone (Boris example) who would sit on mine from stronger GSX. It is simple.

DP1400

Thirty years ago, i`d have probably gone for it!

At the risk of sounding dull, I`m more than happy with the way my K3 performs `as is`. I`ve often got my `supervisor` on the pillion and the `14 is extremely capable of hauling our combined weight (!) of 21stone very, very quickly indeed to 100mph plus.

The `14 `package` is extremely smooth, capable and fuel efficient, as most of us know as owners. Good torque and reasonable power seems to work really well. OK, forget 145mph plus, but thats not what the bike is about....... :whistling:

Big Phil

No anger Vici at all. We all have our own opinions and I truly respect yours but I cannot for the life of me understand how you can say a well set up standard 14 lacks power. A few add on mods like an exhaust system and power commander will add some additional bhp. However, in my opinion, not enough to make a noticeable different on road for the cash investment. Now if your talking about enhancing the looks of the 14 or the sound I can readily agree for some that's a valid investment. A power commander however does not enhance the look of the bike and for $$$$ spent neither adds any usable road power or enough fuel economy to justify the outlay unless your covering huge distances. That said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if it works for you then that's all that matters 🤗

V_i_c_i

Big Phil > But I never talked about money. From my point of view, a motorcycle is not an economical transport. My car is much better at this point of view.
I have a motorcycles (not just GSX1400) as a hobby and for fun. Therefore, I do not regret the money spent on. And maybe it's not even as much as you'd expect. I got a lot of things used (Yoshimura ST1 camshaft from Boris, PC V from bandit forum and so on). We just have a different perspective on that.
But we agree that only the power commander is a waste of money (the result for me is not worth the cost). It is important for larger modifications. And if those adjustments make sense, it's up to each of us ....

BR Vici


GSXKING

#29
@Big Phil  I think VICI's comments are in relation to stepping back from his modified GSX to the standard one is quite a noticeable difference and not meaning a standard lacks power, just not as much as his modified GSX.  :onya: :onya: :onya:
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Chris
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