Old Angels with new wings..

[Speedy1959]

Hi All,
Thought I would partially repeat in this section my initial observations re Pirelli Angels Old and New...
After fitting I did a careful (ish) 110 miles along routes I know well to scrub them in.

The place I bought the tyres from (https://www.shorrocks.co.uk/) has a massive stock of tyres without having to order..
I have to say I was very impressed with the speed of the tyre change 51 minutes from start to finish (including balancing).

My past tyres of choice were always Michelin Pilot Road 4. At the time of replacement I noticed a very big difference in how the new tyre behaved compared to the old worn out tyre..
My worn out (down to the steel) Angel ST's were replaced with the new Angel GT II version)..
As I rode away I was struck by how little difference in feel there was..
In other words the Angels seem to keep their characteristics throughout their life.. There wasn't such a "God its like a new bike" feel that you normally get with new tyres due to older tyres going dull as they wear..
For me this consistency of feel is a definite plus point..

As you know its a bit of a gamble on a bike when you change Tyre allegiance !

S.

[grog]

I agree about Angels feeling good old/ new. My last front did wear one side more than other, new one felt better naturally.

[KiwiCol]

Front right extra wear Grog?

[grog]

Of course Col. Road camber does that.

[KiwiCol]

and the fact that right hand corners are twice as long as left hand corners (taken the same way - lanes etc). Straight up fact.  I was sceptical at first, then I drew an accurate & to scale drawing of a T intersection, marked out the route traveled through each corner then added it up, Twice as far.   

We actually use the right side of the front twice as much as the left.  Simply put the right hand side of the tyre has more miles than the left - hence the faster wear.  People who drive / ride on the right will have the same wear but it'll be on the left.

Still not sure, draw it up n see for yourself.

[grog]

Youre pure genius Col. All accepted. 

[GSXKING]

IMHO I use 180/55's on my GSX. I found I couldn't use all the edge on a 190/50. May come down to riding style etc. 

[Hooli]

I've run a 180/55 for the last few rears too. I get about the same distance from the edge but it makes the bike a lot quicker to turn in & has cured the understeer it'd suffered for a few years.

[Notty]

They probably won't still make them by the time I need new tyres 

[Hooli]

They probably won't still make them by the time I need new tyres 

Feel free to buy me some if you feel you're missing out in any way.

[BlueDragon]

Has anyone tried the new Angel GT2's yet?

I've been reading a few reports online - mostly all rave reviews.  But have also read a few where riders have experienced front end wobble with the new tyre - even after having the tyre/wheel re-balance a few times.  The common theme being they seem to be from the USA and all complaints about high speed highway straight line riding on their concrete highways.

[Speedy1959]

Hi Blue Dragon
Yes the Angels I bought are GTII's (see my earlier post on this thread).
I am into them by nearly 2,000 miles and love them.
They are wearing very slowly. 
It's important that when you ask about tyres you ask people with the same bike as you.
I heard a guy slating the Angel 2 the other weekend but he wasn't riding a GSX1400.
These tyres suite our bikes characteristics.  Put it this way I shall be buying a set again when the time comes.
Highly recommended.
S.

[Tony Nitrous]

and the fact that right hand corners are twice as long as left hand corners (taken the same way - lanes etc). Straight up fact.  I was sceptical at first, then I drew an accurate & to scale drawing of a T intersection, marked out the route traveled through each corner then added it up, Twice as far.   

We actually use the right side of the front twice as much as the left.  Simply put the right hand side of the tyre has more miles than the left - hence the faster wear.  People who drive / ride on the right will have the same wear but it'll be on the left.

Still not sure, draw it up n see for yourself.

Right hand tyre wear ?

The town I lived in had 14 roundabouts, several joined by dual carriageways the rest joined by fast A roads, no traffic lights. It was a regular playground for use late at night or in the early hours, many an hour spent doing laps. A couple of the big roundabouts had car parks or a bus depot in the middle. We spent waaaaay more time hanging off the right hand side. Tyres chewed up on one side was normal to us.

Lady Di's funeral or England making the cup final meant empty roads.

Two fatality's of mates put a stop to it.
RIP Wayne and Keo.

[Tony Nitrous]

I heard a guy slating the Angel 2 the other weekend but he wasn't riding a GSX1400.
These tyres suite our bikes characteristics.

Not just the bikes, but the riders and style too.

We have guys in the Busa club that do HUGE mileage around Australia. Set up for touring, luggage, sat nav etc, 650 mile back to back days are normal.
Other guys are doing much lower mileage but are dragging their pegs around the local mountains, or launching down a drag strip. They both ride similar model bikes.

[BlueDragon]

Hi Blue Dragon
Yes the Angels I bought are GTII's (see my earlier post on this thread).
I am into them by nearly 2,000 miles and love them.
They are wearing very slowly. 
It's important that when you ask about tyres you ask people with the same bike as you.
I heard a guy slating the Angel 2 the other weekend but he wasn't riding a GSX1400.
These tyres suite our bikes characteristics.  Put it this way I shall be buying a set again when the time comes.
Highly recommended.
S.

Agreed.

Which is why I asked the question here.