toyota

[VladTepes]

Yeah the general consensus around the whole modern diesel thing is 'buy a petrol instead'.  It's a shame because here in Aus the extra range generally afforded by a  diesel can be VERY useful.

But DPF and AdBlue are simply (or rather, complex) ways of making diesels 'cleaner'. Even then I doubt they are better, probably less soot is all.

Either way I'll happily stick with my old 1995 direct injection Land Rover

 

[Kiwifruit]

Is it Carbon Neutral Vlad......or is it running?   

[KiwiCol]

Thanks Vlad. Im certainly not the only one then. Id love one of those by pass looms he talks about. I just worked out that its used 3000 litres of fuel more than it shouldve. 21 months. Around $4500. Best fuel, has a screen readout, 13.7l/100ks. 20 mpg. Shouldve bought a v8.

FYI:  13.7 is about what my ML320 does around town. When I'm on the open rd (& I'm driving not the Mrs) I can get it down to about 10.7 - 11.5.    Towing the boat it's doing around 17 - 18l / 100k.    Thirstiest car I ever had was a SS Crewman, that towing was using 22L/100 - doing the same speed as the wee ML.    Just a thirsty car.

[VladTepes]

My Defender uses 10.5l of diesel / 100km.

(not much different in fuel economy empty or loaded with a literal ton either, just slower)

The thirstiest car I've owned was a 3.9l V8 long wheelbase 1994 Range Rover.

Around town it used about 23l/100km. Highway was much better around 14.
On sand it soared above 30 ! Couldn't get far on a tank then....

   

[gsxbarmy]

Thirstiest car I had was my Mitsubishi Evo X - driven very carefully (not often) in drive mode 23/24mpg, else (if not carefully) 20-21mpg. Drop it into Sport mode and that came down to 17-19mpg. Drop it into Supersport (track) mode and we were talking less than 10mpg. Worst I had was after a track day when I came close to empty (having started with a full tank) after just 55 miles in HMG (supersport) mode.

But did she fly and handle in SS mode - oh yes!

[KiwiCol]

That's a great experience Dave, you've had it, used it & loved it. But it's not something you want every day. You've had the buzz & you'll always remember it. Awesome.

[grog]

once built a ZA fairlane, 1967, fitted a 351 windsor motor, canadian ford. motor was out of a speedway car. just over 400bhp, was a lot in 1975. 6mpg. mates n me used to pool money for a nights worth of petrol. could go really well. . i cracked a piston, fitted a stock 302, until i drove another 302 i thought i had a dud. no power. 160ks on 72 litres with big motor. 

[grog]

my ute back to Toyota today. needs another DPF. thats the 4th one in 60th ks. 14g each. great car you think. i hate the bloody thing.

[Kiwifruit]

Thats shocking. What causes it ? How the hell do they cost 14 grand......??

[grog]

Kiwi, all about pollution control. this thing blows so much smoke. i get abused at lights, my clothes stink, really bad. makes me cough. they dont have an answer. only 11 months of warranty left, what happens then. toyota left me out to dry. has to last until 6 yrs old. ill have to pay to by pass dpf, ute is then illegal. sign a form to say for off road use only. if i get caught its 11g fine. i tossed up between isuzu and hilux, time over, my choice you can guess.

[KiwiCol]

Sell the thing as soon as the new filter goes in. best way around it.

[Andre]

Sell it back to Toyota. It's under warranty and they obviously can't fix the problem.

[gsxbarmy]

Do what some have done in the UK. If they can't fix it, then demand a new engine be installed, as clearly there is something wrong (unless its a design fault, in which case sell the thing)

[KiwiCol]

Is it yours Grog or does it belong to your work?

[grog]

my work truck, glad its not mine. back in tomorrow for 4th dpf. next week are replacing whole timing chain stuff, tensioners etc. what a piece of crap. bet toyota wish theyd designed it not out sourced to bmw. great ute except for motor.