Stuck oil filter

[typan]

Any tips on removing a solidly stuck oil filter .the bike as  a chrome  oil filter with the 17mm hex head on the end.  I tried the 17mm socket but it just spins on the hex.I bought a strap but can't get enough torque due to lack of room,tried oil filter grips,still no luck.besides sticking a screwdriver through it.any better ideas.should I remove headers to get better  access to filter.

[Daytona]

You can buy a genuine Suzuki product oil filter removal socket,I bought one this year and it was only 4 pounds from the Suzuki dealer.certainly beats trying to remove with a screwdriver and cleaner..

[gsxbarmy]

You can buy a genuine Suzuki product oil filter removal socket,I bought one this year and it was only 4 pounds from the Suzuki dealer.certainly beats trying to remove with a screwdriver and cleaner..

Problem with the Suzuki tool though is that it doesn't allow for the "nut" on the end of a non-standard filter.

Short of sticking a screwdriver through it - from Halfords you can get a chain oil filter wrench, which locks around it (  http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/halfords-chain-oil-filter-wrench-100mm ) . Ruins the filter as it grips, but then one doesn't care given you are replacing it. What you need to "break" is the seal of the rubber gasket of the filter against the engine block (when you fit the new filter eventually, just rub some of the old engine oil on the mating surface of the new oil filter before fitting it). Just don't do it up so much next time! This chain wrench will give you enough grip (even though you may have restricted access) to break that seal, from then it will spin off.

[Snapey]

The Suzuki tool spins on a tight filter & the strap /chain ones are difficult to use & not easy to get purchase on once on the filter. I use the Suzuki tool because it's easy to use but every now & then you get a tight one so this one comes to the rescue.

[typan]

thanks for the replies chaps.I'll give it a whirl at the weekend.

[typan]

well after some swearing, I finally got the bar steward to break the seal.using the chain method. all is well now, oiled the new seal and just nipped the new filter up. thanks again chaps for the help.

[seth]

well done
you just saved £££by doing it yourself as a garage would have charged loads extra for doing it .

[KiwiCol]

As an addition to this, the manual says 2 complete turns from face contact for filter tightening. 2 turns is a lot, I do it, but can you get away with half a turn or 1 turn?
Who's doing what in this regard?

[seth]

i do about a turn and a half from faces touching .

[gsxbarmy]

i do about a turn and a half from faces touching .

That's exactly what I used to do as well. More than enough.

[KiwiCol]

Thx guys, I'll be doing same on mine next time round.

[grog]

had to think about it, mustve changed thousand oil filters in my life. just my job. some lube on rubber ring, always check to make sure old ring not still stuck on housing. been there, makes a big mess. tighten until it touches, two good tweaks with hand. they never come loose. the new cars have cartridges, should see the stuff ups they cause. plastic housings crack, metal distort. was all about spin ons creating landfill pollution, now they say replace outer housings quite often. less landfill? no. tighten with torque wrench is instructed. cheapest housings are 20 bucks, some are up to 200. a cheap service on your opel sir, filter cartdridge was 30 bucks but the housing was 150. makes it an expensive lube. off subject i know but an auto service on new ford falcon, 600 for just the oil. wtf. 

[Andre]

Thanks Grog for the heads up. Modern technology is getting more and more ridiculous. 

[Sweaty]

Yeah, I'm with you Grog.
Turn mine on as far as it will go by hand, roughly a bit over 1 turn from memory. Is definitely tight enough.

[Mick_J]

Yeah, I'm with you Grog.
Turn mine on as far as it will go by hand, roughly a bit over 1 turn from memory. Is definitely tight enough.

+1   Just over 1 turn by hand