Which ones

[grog]

Agree, very strange. Ive seen bikes from new, one bloke has no prob, anothers same tyres just bugger up🤷.  I had Mich 4 and were terrible, others loved them.I spent hundreds plus so much time on my old GS1000, just no straight line stability. I went thru doing bearings, frame checked, forks, new shocks.Ran out of ideas, hated the bike, was just a really bad ride. Took the Dunlops off, Michys fitted, went from a shopping trolley to a superb handler. I still remember first trip, unbelievable the difference.Bloody tyres??

[watgra]

Amazing how different experiences are had.

Switching from Metzeler Z8 to Michelin Road 5 was a great revelation (improvement) for me, particularly in the twisties. So much better grip! There was scalloping (rear) on the Z8 as well as my first set of Road 5. After getting new rear shocks (and proper setup) there was no more scalloping. Road 5 wear very even in my case.

So what gives?

Misaligned tires, worn Suspension, or unbalanced tires are culprits for uneven wear/scalloping.

Interesting, thanks Andre.  I did get the alignment, balance and suspension checked when I had the PR's, as I was concerned about the uneven wear.  All was well supposedly.  It was then I got the feedback that the relatively heavy front end on some bikes causes scalloping on PR's, but who knows.   No issues with the Z8's so far, working fine for me, but of course I'll keep an eye on it. Cheers G

[Andre]

Never ever had scalloping on the front on any tire, incl. the infamous Bridgestone that the 14s came with from factory. According to Dave Moss (look him up if you haven't heard of him), scalloping due to suspension is a rebound-damping issue.

My setup comes from a former mechanic on Suzuki (and others) race teams who has the same suspension as I do as well as about the same weight. It is spot-on. Well, it was. Lost a bunch of weight recently - so at least preload needs to be adjusted.

[Andre]

Agree, very strange. Ive seen bikes from new, one bloke has no prob, anothers same tyres just bugger up🤷.  I had Mich 4 and were terrible, others loved them.I spent hundreds plus so much time on my old GS1000, just no straight line stability. I went thru doing bearings, frame checked, forks, new shocks.Ran out of ideas, hated the bike, was just a really bad ride. Took the Dunlops off, Michys fitted, went from a shopping trolley to a superb handler. I still remember first trip, unbelievable the difference.Bloody tyres??

Yes, bloody tires and bloody ... Seems like find one that works for you and then stick to it.

[GSXKING]

I had my new Michelins fitted yesterday.
Tyre tech said Michelins are very pressure sensitive and suggested I check a few times a week 🧐.

He did also mention most motorcycle tyres being manufactured in countries with very cheap labour costs.
The price we pay subsidises R&D for race tyres which then transfers through to street tyres eventually. Transport and shipping plays a big part also.
Australia charges tax on taxes also so my discounted price was $650 for two tyres fitted and balanced. Retail he's quoting $720 for his next shipment.
Apparently I was lucky he had my sizes available. 🍀🍀🍀

[Andre]

Tyre tech said Michelins are very pressure sensitive and suggested I check a few times a week 🧐.

In 21 days. Similar outside temp. Road 5 front 2.5 to 2.4 bar, rear 2.9 to 2.7. 1.5/3.0 psi drop. Judge yourself. Same trend for all 3 sets of road 5. New valves included on new tires. Should be checking before each ride anyhow

He did also mention most motorcycle tyres being manufactured in countries with very cheap labour costs.

Probably true. Road 5 and Road 6 produced in Spain (as are all Michelin for 14). Angel GT produced in China, Angel GT2 front from China and rear from Germany. According to large online tire dealer.  https://www.mopedreifen.de/Motorrad/SUZUKI/GSX+1400.html?id=1597

[Kiwifruit]

What was his recommendation on pressures Chris

[GSXKING]

Col for my style of riding solo 42 psi and two up 44 psi. 

Same pressure we used in NZ mate .

[Tony Nitrous]

I make no secret of being an S22 fan. Absolutely love 'em!
Being honest the Roads, Powers, S22's / 23's, Rosso's and a lot of others all seem pretty good.

Only one I absolutely avoid are the Angel GT2's. I removed a near new pair before I made a hole in the scenery and chucked them in the back of the shed.  I can see why folk hate the double grove front, why other manufacturers don't do it, and why they were taken off sale in the huge US market.
Wouldn't fit them if they were $1 a pair.

[grog]

Such a pity about new Angels, on my second set originals,never a problem. Think Seth uses Angel 2, i never even liked tread pattern from first sight.Next tyres will not worry about lasting, something sporty. Never been a Bridgestone fan but will have a look. Just realised my car tyres are Bridgestone. 

[seth]

Such a pity about new Angels, on my second set originals,never a problem. Think Seth uses Angel 2, i never even liked tread pattern from first sight.Next tyres will not worry about lasting, something sporty. Never been a Bridgestone fan but will have a look. Just realised my car tyres are Bridgestone. 

I've used the St's the gt's and gt'2
The St's are good and I had 10k miles from them
Gt's last the best but get a bit sketchy over 6k miles to 8-9k
The gt'2 are in my opinion the best for the longest as the stay round for the longest miles I get 8-9k on average and they are great for 6-7k miles.
I had 1 set of micheiln road 5's and I l8ked them alot plus I got a good deal on them .
Only other tyres I've tried was a set of metzelar se01 and I hated them for 6k miles and even swapped my wheels( to a set with gt'2) for a trip to Denmark as they scared me a bit in the wet .
I've basically used various pirelli's for the last 15 years and done probably 45k miles on the 2 bikes in that time and these are my thoughts .

[gsxbarmy]

Such a pity about new Angels, on my second set originals,never a problem. Think Seth uses Angel 2, i never even liked tread pattern from first sight.Next tyres will not worry about lasting, something sporty. Never been a Bridgestone fan but will have a look. Just realised my car tyres are Bridgestone. 

I've used the St's the gt's and gt'2
The St's are good and I had 10k miles from them
Gt's last the best but get a bit sketchy over 6k miles to 8-9k
The gt'2 are in my opinion the best for the longest as the stay round for the longest miles I get 8-9k on average and they are great for 6-7k miles.
I had 1 set of micheiln road 5's and I l8ked them alot plus I got a good deal on them .
Only other tyres I've tried was a set of metzelar se01 and I hated them for 6k miles and even swapped my wheels( to a set with gt'2) for a trip to Denmark as they scared me a bit in the wet .
I've basically used various pirelli's for the last 15 years and done probably 45k miles on the 2 bikes in that time and these are my thoughts .

Strange isn't it that what works on one bike and riders swear by, others hate - on my BMW R1250GS, Metzler Roadtec's are as good as Michelin PR6's, nothing in it wet or dry, yet on the 14, they don't work (well not for @seth anyway LOL). Different bikes, suit different tyres, suit different riders/riding styles.

[Jeykey]

Regarding the 5 year myth it can be misleading. Many variables to consider. 3 years with a lot of sun and other stuff or 7 always in garage and shade ? I´d go for the 7.Michelin and https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/debunking-the-tire-age-myth?srsltid=AfmBOopngkE634Pri-KlpJkGzfwzryWaZzVpdIv58BthPlpGzt5MWtvG.