Suitable Engine Oils

[Andre]

Because this is a thread that keeps on giving......
Grog are you still using the Gulf Western Syn-X 3000 now they have made it a full synthetic ?
I am on my second oil change using it.

Soooo....I give you some more

This fits perfectly to what I said in my above post regarding marketing



They would not be able to claim this to be a fully synthetic oil up and over here in Germany. I believe Germany is the only country that protects consumers against this specific false claim.

"Severely hydrocracked oils" are not full synthetic oils. They belong to group III base oils. Manufacturers like to market them as synthetic because of their extensive processing.  True synthetic oils are in group IV (example: PAO) and group V (example:Ester)

I don't know of all the changes (if any) in above oil. The one change for sure is the marketing approach!

Sure this doesn't make it a "bad" oil. BUT the claim is FALSE and DECEPTIVE!

[Kiwifruit]

Col, just the advertising has changed not the oil.I actually rang them months ago, they advertise as full synthetic now, i dont understand butwas assured exact same oil.Works for me, never had a problem. Both cars & bike use it 👍

Yes I do recall you saying that. I'm well happy with it. Can't understand why they would confuse users of the product by doing that if nothing had changed.
Side issue, went to buy a Hi-Flo filter, agent didn't have one, had a genuine Suzuki filter.....nearly ten dollars cheaper !!

[KiwiCol]

Like this stuff??  



I buy it in bulk when I'm over the hill, it's not available here.

[Hooli]

That reminds me, I must check if Halfords have their own back in stock yet. I've used my supply up at the weekend.

[Will14]

That reminds me, I must check if Halfords have their own back in stock yet. I've used my supply up at the weekend.

My local Halfords had two 5L cans on the shelf yesterday. Not sure if it's gone up a bit in price I think it was £33 or £34, just caught a quick glimpse as I was in a bit of a rush to get to the till a minute or two before closing time

[Hooli]

That reminds me, I must check if Halfords have their own back in stock yet. I've used my supply up at the weekend.

My local Halfords had two 5L cans on the shelf yesterday. Not sure if it's gone up a bit in price I think it was £33 or £34, just caught a quick glimpse as I was in a bit of a rush to get to the till a minute or two before closing time

Excellent, cheers.

[grog]

Not sure but with 180k miles on yours Hooli, im thinking your Halfords  choice is a suitable oil👏👍

[Hooli]

I did exactly what Andre says not to do when I picked it to keep using Grog. Tried several & picked the one with the smoothest gearbox & least engine noise. Works for me & still doesn't burn a drop either so obviously works.

No idea who makes it now, used to be Comma I think. But the lack of supply recently was apparently down to them changing suppliers. Hope the specs have stayed the same. Guess I'll find out on the next oil change.

[grog]

Basically it works, thats all you need

[Andre]

I did exactly what Andre says not to do

I am sure I said somewhere else to not do something. Certainly not here!

To say "This oil is great because gears are quiet now" is hogwash. Most likely reason for quiet gears is the liberal use of VI-improvers. That imo is a big negative point.

Just as much as one can't say that the oil is great because of its "quiet-factor", one can't say that it is a bad oil. All it says is the most likely reason for this is that the producer of that oil dumped a bunch of VI-improvers into the cocktail. It doesn't say anything about the base oil and other additives used.

[Will14]

I did exactly what Andre says not to do

I am sure I said somewhere else to not do something. Certainly not here!

To say "This oil is great because gears are quiet now" is hogwash. Most likely reason for quiet gears is the liberal use of VI-improvers. That imo is a big negative point.

Just as much as one can't say that the oil is great because of its "quiet-factor", one can't say that it is a bad oil. All it says is the most likely reason for this is that the producer of that oil dumped a bunch of VI-improvers into the cocktail. It doesn't say anything about the base oil and other additives used.

I'm not disagreeing but at 180K miles whatever is in the cocktail can't be doing to many negatives to the engine 

[nod]

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[Andre]

I'm not disagreeing but at 180K miles whatever is in the cocktail can't be doing to many negatives to the engine

Obviously

I don't think my neighbor ever bothered to think about the oil he put into his Corolla. Sold it  for 200 US $ after driving 550k miles (one engine, no rebuild, and an engine fire). I never bothered much with oil change intervals and level-checking (had a couple times were level could not be detected ) either on my Corolla when I left it with 180k miles behind. Still ran great.

Obviously engines can run for a long time without much thought of what you put in them. Even engines who never saw an oil change, level check, or top-off last 80k miles. Incredible! Whatever works for the owner is fine with me.

Doesn't change a thing about oil quality. If you don't give a shite about tribology then that's ok. Just leave those who are interested go about their business.

Over-and-out

[grog]

Each to their own Andre 👍Bloody Corollas, door lock broke yesterday, only 25 yrs old.Think its payback, i thought of selling it,i wont, that would be like selling my 14.

[Kiwifruit]

Have found over the years of owning a couple of Corolla's that there's a light on the dash that tells you when to open the bonnet