Bike Smoking when coming off revs, Rider behind said smells very rich after new

Started by Xdiavel, Monday, 08 January 2024, 08:31 PM

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Andre

Quote from: Xdiavel on Monday, 15 January  2024, 09:48 PMOne more questions guys,

Is there anything I should be aware of when removing the rocker cover? ie pipes, gaskets anything under it that may come loose etc? Thanks

Beware of the dowel pins.

Xdiavel

Quote from: Andre on Tuesday, 16 January  2024, 02:43 AM
Quote from: Xdiavel on Monday, 15 January  2024, 09:48 PMOne more questions guys,

Is there anything I should be aware of when removing the rocker cover? ie pipes, gaskets anything under it that may come loose etc? Thanks

Beware of the dowel pins.

Are they what the seals sit on?

Xdiavel

On a plus note, All sensors now back in spec  :grin:

Also removed the pairs cover and lovely and clean in there.

Andre

Quote from: Xdiavel on Tuesday, 16 January  2024, 04:19 AM
Quote from: Andre on Tuesday, 16 January  2024, 02:43 AM
Quote from: Xdiavel on Monday, 15 January  2024, 09:48 PMOne more questions guys,

Is there anything I should be aware of when removing the rocker cover? ie pipes, gaskets anything under it that may come loose etc? Thanks

Beware of the dowel pins.

Are they what the seals sit on?

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I remember some guy dropped one into the engine. I lift the cover a little bit to see if they sit in the cover (will be fine if they all sit in their place in the head. If any sits in the cover, I would insert some carton between the cover and the head so it doesn't drop down the cam chain "shaft".

Hooli


Andre

I only know of the one case. Mine were where they belonged. But better safe than sorry.

seth

Quote from: Xdiavel on Tuesday, 16 January  2024, 04:22 AMOn a plus note, All sensors now back in spec  :grin:

Also removed the pairs cover and lovely and clean in there.
I was hoping you'd find something hopefully the sensors being back in spec help .
Only other thing was when hooli had an engine temp sensor go out do the bike thought it was always below freezing but he'll hopefully explain that better .
Good luck
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

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grog

Bike is smoking, oil burn obviously. Im a bit lost, what is achieved by removing valve cover?

Hooli

Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 16 January  2024, 07:29 PMBike is smoking, oil burn obviously. Im a bit lost, what is achieved by removing valve cover?

The PAIRs seals Barmy mentioned as a possible cause are under the cam cover.

Hooli

Quote from: seth on Tuesday, 16 January  2024, 07:13 PMOnly other thing was when hooli gad an engine temp sensor go out do the bike thought it was always below freezing but he'll hopefully explain that better .
Good luck

I can't see it being that, it didn't cause smoking. Just at 24mpg fuel drinking habit.

seth

Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 16 January  2024, 07:29 PMBike is smoking, oil burn obviously. Im a bit lost, what is achieved by removing valve cover?
It's the first quick and least invasive way to check if any oil is getting past the seals into the valves .
If that's all good the next steps are head off and check the valve stem seals and valve seats and then if they are OK the piston rings sealing properly .
We have all read the nightmares that taking the head off can give (broken exhaust bolts being the worst)
 :cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

Sethbot Postwhore

Andre


grog


Xdiavel


Xdiavel


I will be doing the seals this weekend hopefully, So can fire it up and check that the sensor moves hasn't knocked too much out. Cannot start it yet as got the bike in bits and tank off etc ready for the weekend.

Also got the rear brake lever off too atm as it's sticking. And now noticed the front fork seal leaking. For such a low mls bike and how clean it was I am just finding one thing after another atm and feel I have been taken for a ride pardon the pun for what I paid for it!!

But I suppose it will all be done for the new season and want for nothing. If the pairs seals do not fix it then I will forget about it for the time being as the valve stem seals will cost a small fortune.

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