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Part number please K7 model!

Started by Speedy1959, Friday, 18 August 2023, 04:25 AM

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Speedy1959

Hi all,

I ve had a recurring weep on my left fork leg for a while now..
Not sure why as I replaced both seals with Genuine Suzuki ones...

Long story short...
I dismantled the fork and discovered that the plastic bit that goes into the bottom of the fork leg was shattered into 4 pieces!
Im talking about the yellow plastic bit that the damper rod sits in which the allen bolt at the very bottom tightens through..

Ive looked on the Fowlers website and its not at all clear (to me) what the part number is..
Heres the page:

https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5290344/gsx1400-k6-zk7-06-07/front-fork-damper

As a matter of interest what exactky does that plastic bit do?
It cant act as an oil seal as mine was shattered and didnt leak from the bottom allen bolt..
I suppose what I am asking is, do i need it ?

S

hard road

51195-16G60-000 its the "oil piece" is it plastic on the 1400  :confused1:  they are normally aluminium.

Speedy1959

Quote from: hard road on Friday, 18 August  2023, 07:33 AM51195-16G60-000 its the "oil piece" is it plastic on the 1400  :confused1:  they are normally aluminium.


Thanks Hard road,
A mate offered to copy my good one in Aluminium..
Not sure whether to risk it or not.
BLOODY expensive for a bit of Placky !!

hard road

Quote from: Speedy1959 on Friday, 18 August  2023, 08:04 AM
Quote from: hard road on Friday, 18 August  2023, 07:33 AM51195-16G60-000 its the "oil piece" is it plastic on the 1400  :confused1:  they are normally aluminium.


Thanks Hard road,
A mate offered to copy my good one in Aluminium..
Not sure whether to risk it or not.
BLOODY expensive for a bit of Placky !!

their must of been cutbacks at suzuki when the 14 came out !!!!! as normally the are made from aluminium.

Speedy1959

Ive ordered the part from Japan via "Webike.net" and even with express postage its about 40% less than Fowlers..
For now I have re assembled without that placky bit in situ..
There is NO LEAK from the forks at all.
As Hard Road says that is fitted as a sort of shock absorber for the last 10mm of travel (Large pot hole or a bad wheelie).. I have to say the fork re assmbled A LOT easier without that damned placcy bit !

Speedy1959

I have just done a 135 mile ride over some VERY crappy B roads in the Yorkshire dales..
I can confirm that I have ZERO leakes from the fork thats been refitted WITHOUT to Placcy "oil Stop" part!
In fact even though I have ordered the part from Japan, I am VERY tempted to leave well alone and NOT fit the part when it arives!
Seriously she behaves spot on and I can tell NO difference with the part fitted and not fitted!
Believe me I have gone over some VERY crappy roads with pot holes and shitty surfaces..
Of more importance to me is the fact that the new oil seal is 100% effective. Not a single smear of oil.
I would go as far as to say if you have a damaged "Oil stop" then remove it and dont bother being ripped off with the £60 + charge for a new one!!
S

hard road

Quote from: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 24 August  2023, 05:19 AMI have just done a 135 mile ride over some VERY crappy B roads in the Yorkshire dales..
I can confirm that I have ZERO leakes from the fork thats been refitted WITHOUT to Placcy "oil Stop" part!
In fact even though I have ordered the part from Japan, I am VERY tempted to leave well alone and NOT fit the part when it arives!
Seriously she behaves spot on and I can tell NO difference with the part fitted and not fitted!
Believe me I have gone over some VERY crappy roads with pot holes and shitty surfaces..
Of more importance to me is the fact that the new oil seal is 100% effective. Not a single smear of oil.
I would go as far as to say if you have a damaged "Oil stop" then remove it and dont bother being ripped off with the £60 + charge for a new one!!
S

its like I said, never thought they made any difference to the fork action anyway  :whatever:  did you use genuine fork seals ?

Irish in Oz

I have done the seals in my and my mates K7 and I can assure that part was aluminium. Used pyramid seals in both and have had no issues.

Speedy1959

Quote from: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 24 August  2023, 04:13 PMI have done the seals in my and my mates K7 and I can assure that part was aluminium. Used pyramid seals in both and have had no issues.

My bikes a 2008 (K7) and both oil stops are both crappy placcy!
In my case I used Suzuki oil seals and Rock Oil 5 weight fork oil.

grog

Suzuki seals are NOK brand. Genuine $72 in Oz. NOK are $56.Kawasaki sell identical as genuine for less than $30. Ill search the part number and post.

Speedy1959

Quote from: grog on Thursday, 24 August  2023, 05:27 PMSuzuki seals are NOK brand. Genuine $72 in Oz. NOK are $56.Kawasaki sell identical as genuine for less than $30. Ill search the part number and post.

Just received the "Oil stop" from Webike.com (Fantastic service in less than a week all the way from Japan).
It's 100% definitely plastic.
It's white not yellow but definitely plastic.

grog

If all OK Mate, put it on the shelf, keep riding. Always my Motto, not broken, dont try to fix it.

T250

Quote from: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 24 August  2023, 05:59 PM
Quote from: grog on Thursday, 24 August  2023, 05:27 PMSuzuki seals are NOK brand. Genuine $72 in Oz. NOK are $56.Kawasaki sell identical as genuine for less than $30. Ill search the part number and post.

Just received the "Oil stop" from Webike.com (Fantastic service in less than a week all the way from Japan).
It's 100% definitely plastic.
It's white not yellow but definitely plastic.


Is it the correct one? The K2-K4 were white and K5 on were yellow and were a different shape, I showed this in the link where I had the two side by side for comparison, 6th post down;

https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=2783.0

Blubber

Quote from: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 24 August  2023, 05:19 AMI have just done a 135 mile ride over some VERY crappy B roads in the Yorkshire dales..

We weren't that far apart then, I did the Moors recently.
Can confirm the roads are " interesting"  around York
Wreck-it Richard - one of the unDutchables

Andre

Quote from: hard road on Thursday, 24 August  2023, 06:35 AM
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 24 August  2023, 05:19 AMI have just done a 135 mile ride over some VERY crappy B roads in the Yorkshire dales..
I can confirm that I have ZERO leakes from the fork thats been refitted WITHOUT to Placcy "oil Stop" part!
In fact even though I have ordered the part from Japan, I am VERY tempted to leave well alone and NOT fit the part when it arives!
Seriously she behaves spot on and I can tell NO difference with the part fitted and not fitted!
Believe me I have gone over some VERY crappy roads with pot holes and shitty surfaces..
Of more importance to me is the fact that the new oil seal is 100% effective. Not a single smear of oil.
I would go as far as to say if you have a damaged "Oil stop" then remove it and dont bother being ripped off with the £60 + charge for a new one!!
S

its like I said, never thought they made any difference to the fork action anyway  :whatever:  did you use genuine fork seals ?

You may find out the difference when you bottom out the fork. Then you get really ripped off.

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