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Started by Will14, Friday, 23 June 2023, 07:51 AM

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Will14

Went out this afternoon for a 60ish mile run & got caught in a bit of a rain shower on the top of the Denbigh Moors, plus the farmers had been out with their tractors so the roads were pretty mucky made worse by the rain resulting in a dirty bike!

I gave her a wash when I got home and noticed a crack all the way through the top bar on the oil cooler on one side and a smaller developing crack on the opposite side, initially I thought a new cooler was in order but on closer inspection there is no leak and just looks like the frame rather than the tank, will see if I can find somebody to repair it tomorrow, typical just as I have a few days off work  :facepalm:

On a brighter side the two grand kids were at home when I got there  :smitten:

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GSXKING

They both look like trouble & I'm referring to the radiator of course lol 😂
GSXKING 3:^)
Chris
Best allrounder I've ever owned 👍

gsxbarmy

If you do need a replacement @Will14 , the one from Aaron Radiators is very well made - you'd need to call them for price though

https://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/motorcycle-oil-coolers/
Nothing to do.............all day to do it....I love retirement :lol:

Will14

Quote from: GSXKING on Friday, 23 June  2023, 05:16 PMThey both look like trouble & I'm referring to the radiator of course lol 😂
This bloody bike is giving me more trouble than both of the lads at the moment! Still at 22 years old I suppose these things are to be expected

Will14

Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 23 June  2023, 07:30 PMIf you do need a replacement @Will14 , the one from Aaron Radiators is very well made - you'd need to call them for price though

https://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/motorcycle-oil-coolers/
Thanks Dave, I did see them on the net last night & was going to call this morning, however...

Fortunately the cooler isn't leaking & the cracks are where the top bracket meets the tanks on either side of the radiator core, probably weakened over time with vibration and the state of out roads doesn't help

I cleaned the top of the bracket up and filed a groove on both sides where the meal was cracked, I was going to do a repair with liquid metal but after speaking to a local engine builder he put me in touch with a retired local engineer who by all accounts is a bit of a wizard when it comes to brazing ally, so he has the cooler at the moment & will put a couple of runs of braze on either side. When the cooler is back i'm going to give it a bit of a rub down and treat it to a few coats of primer and top coat in satin black, hopefully she will be good for another couple of decades then

Cheers

hard road

have you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand  :whatever:  crazy money  :shocked: 

Will14

Quote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June  2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand  :whatever:  crazy money  :shocked: 
Strangely enough I had a look about 20 minutes ago out of interest, crazy price! Mind you the bloody small O Rings for the flanges are over £5 each, luckily the old ones are good, I thought they may have gone hard or split but they seem fine so can go back in when I have finished painting the cooler

Cheers

Andre

Quote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June  2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand  :whatever:  crazy money  :shocked:

Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.

Some sample prices (in euros) put together by a member on a German forum. Source is Team Suzuki https://www.suzuki-motorrad-ersatzteile.de/d2p/d2p?ALIAS=25213&BRAND=SUZUKI&MACHINE=551&NAVGROUP=S_gsx5&PNO=068.P2TSUZUKI5338920

- (that will get you started  :furious: ) starter: 770 ,-
- throttle body: 2.200 ,-
- 1 injector: 300 ,-
- 4 down pipes: 900 ,-
- (money-) collector: 660 ,-
- oil cooler (a real bargain compared to your grand): 630 ,-
- fuel pump assembly: 920 ,-
- generator (rotor und stator): 900 ,-
- ECU: 1180 ,-
- exhaust can left: 830,- (right one not available anymore)
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Will14

Quote from: Andre on Saturday, 24 June  2023, 03:10 AM
Quote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June  2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand  :whatever:  crazy money  :shocked:

Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.

Some sample prices (in euros) put together by a member on a German forum. Source is Team Suzuki https://www.suzuki-motorrad-ersatzteile.de/d2p/d2p?ALIAS=25213&BRAND=SUZUKI&MACHINE=551&NAVGROUP=S_gsx5&PNO=068.P2TSUZUKI5338920

- (that will get you started  :furious: ) starter: 770 ,-
- throttle body: 2.200 ,-
- 1 injector: 300 ,-
- 4 down pipes: 900 ,-
- (money-) collector: 660 ,-
- oil cooler (a real bargain compared to your grand): 630 ,-
- fuel pump assembly: 920 ,-
- generator (rotor und stator): 900 ,-
- ECU: 1180 ,-
- exhaust can left: 830,- (right one not available anymore)
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The parts listed above are almost double what a new K2 cost back in the day, just to put some perspective on things

Will14

Well that didn't turn out to badly, £20 for a bit of brazing & £10 for primer & satin black paint, job done refitted this morning & all good, let the bike idle until the cooling fan kicked in & no sign of any leaks image0 (2).png

KiwiCol

Awesome job Will14   :onya:  :clapping:
😎  Always looking for the next corner.  😎

Tony Nitrous

Quote from: Andre on Saturday, 24 June  2023, 03:10 AM
Quote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June  2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand  :whatever:  crazy money  :shocked:

Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.


Suzuki's prices are all over the place. I've been buying a few bits recently.

Short bolts with a bit of an odd shoulder for a 2022 model... AU$3.75 each.

The same bolt but slightly longer (they swap between models) for a 2011 model... AU$45 each. 
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Tony Nitrous

Quote from: Will14 on Sunday, 25 June  2023, 06:49 AMWell that didn't turn out to badly, £20 for a bit of brazing & £10 for primer & satin black paint, job done refitted this morning & all good, let the bike idle until the cooling fan kicked in & no sign of any leaks image0 (2).png

Thats come out really well. Good job.

I smashed a radiator back in 2008 with a rock and made a real mess of it. $1000 and a wait for a new one. Local rad shop said they'd have a look at it. When I got it back I couldn't even see the damaged area. $75 and still fine 15 years later.

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KiwiCol

Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Sunday, 25 June  2023, 10:11 AM
Quote from: Andre on Saturday, 24 June  2023, 03:10 AM
Quote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June  2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand  :whatever:  crazy money  :shocked:

Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.


Suzuki's prices are all over the place. I've been buying a few bits recently.

Short bolts with a bit of an odd shoulder for a 2022 model... AU$3.75 each.

The same bolt but slightly longer (they swap between models) for a 2011 model... AU$45 each. 

That's nuts for a bolt!  Guess that's what ya gotta pay to buy 'genuine' bolts for a 12 year old bike.  Probably because they've had to hold that bolt for so many years, still nuts for a bolt though.  Think I'd be buying a couple of the $4 ones & cutting & welding a bit more thread onto it.
😎  Always looking for the next corner.  😎

Tony Nitrous


The $45 ones are longer so you can hook luggage straps on the end. I'm thinking the price is due to them hoping folk will want the old style bolts to fit to the latest model.

The irony is they (the longer ones) were always known as "Frankenstein" bolts and for many years folk have been removing or replacing them with a shorter version anyway.

I understand old stock / desirability / marketing etc but the price difference is waaaaay out.







I keep both here as they can be changed in a few seconds and fit all Busa's. 99% of the time I use the flush ones as I don't like the sticky-out ugly bolts but have the long ones for rare days I use luggage.
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