Went out this afternoon for a 60ish mile run & got caught in a bit of a rain shower on the top of the Denbigh Moors, plus the farmers had been out with their tractors so the roads were pretty mucky made worse by the rain resulting in a dirty bike!
I gave her a wash when I got home and noticed a crack all the way through the top bar on the oil cooler on one side and a smaller developing crack on the opposite side, initially I thought a new cooler was in order but on closer inspection there is no leak and just looks like the frame rather than the tank, will see if I can find somebody to repair it tomorrow, typical just as I have a few days off work :facepalm:
On a brighter side the two grand kids were at home when I got there :smitten:
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They both look like trouble & I'm referring to the radiator of course lol 😂
If you do need a replacement
@Will14 , the one from Aaron Radiators is very well made - you'd need to call them for price though
https://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/motorcycle-oil-coolers/
Quote from: GSXKING on Friday, 23 June 2023, 05:16 PMThey both look like trouble & I'm referring to the radiator of course lol 😂
This bloody bike is giving me more trouble than both of the lads at the moment! Still at 22 years old I suppose these things are to be expected
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 23 June 2023, 07:30 PMIf you do need a replacement @Will14 , the one from Aaron Radiators is very well made - you'd need to call them for price though
https://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/motorcycle-oil-coolers/
Thanks Dave, I did see them on the net last night & was going to call this morning, however...
Fortunately the cooler isn't leaking & the cracks are where the top bracket meets the tanks on either side of the radiator core, probably weakened over time with vibration and the state of out roads doesn't help
I cleaned the top of the bracket up and filed a groove on both sides where the meal was cracked, I was going to do a repair with liquid metal but after speaking to a local engine builder he put me in touch with a retired local engineer who by all accounts is a bit of a wizard when it comes to brazing ally, so he has the cooler at the moment & will put a couple of runs of braze on either side. When the cooler is back i'm going to give it a bit of a rub down and treat it to a few coats of primer and top coat in satin black, hopefully she will be good for another couple of decades then
Cheers
have you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand :whatever: crazy money :shocked:
Quote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June 2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand :whatever: crazy money :shocked:
Strangely enough I had a look about 20 minutes ago out of interest, crazy price! Mind you the bloody small O Rings for the flanges are over £5 each, luckily the old ones are good, I thought they may have gone hard or split but they seem fine so can go back in when I have finished painting the cooler
Cheers
Quote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June 2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand :whatever: crazy money :shocked:
Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.
Some sample prices (in euros) put together by a member on a German forum. Source is Team Suzuki https://www.suzuki-motorrad-ersatzteile.de/d2p/d2p?ALIAS=25213&BRAND=SUZUKI&MACHINE=551&NAVGROUP=S_gsx5&PNO=068.P2TSUZUKI5338920 (https://www.suzuki-motorrad-ersatzteile.de/d2p/d2p?ALIAS=25213&BRAND=SUZUKI&MACHINE=551&NAVGROUP=S_gsx5&PNO=068.P2TSUZUKI5338920)
- (that will get you started :furious: ) starter: 770 ,-
- throttle body: 2.200 ,-
- 1 injector: 300 ,-
- 4 down pipes: 900 ,-
- (money-) collector: 660 ,-
- oil cooler (a real bargain compared to your grand): 630 ,-
- fuel pump assembly: 920 ,-
- generator (rotor und stator): 900 ,-
- ECU: 1180 ,-
- exhaust can left: 830,- (right one not available anymore)
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Quote from: Andre on Saturday, 24 June 2023, 03:10 AMQuote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June 2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand :whatever: crazy money :shocked:
Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.
Some sample prices (in euros) put together by a member on a German forum. Source is Team Suzuki https://www.suzuki-motorrad-ersatzteile.de/d2p/d2p?ALIAS=25213&BRAND=SUZUKI&MACHINE=551&NAVGROUP=S_gsx5&PNO=068.P2TSUZUKI5338920 (https://www.suzuki-motorrad-ersatzteile.de/d2p/d2p?ALIAS=25213&BRAND=SUZUKI&MACHINE=551&NAVGROUP=S_gsx5&PNO=068.P2TSUZUKI5338920)
- (that will get you started :furious: ) starter: 770 ,-
- throttle body: 2.200 ,-
- 1 injector: 300 ,-
- 4 down pipes: 900 ,-
- (money-) collector: 660 ,-
- oil cooler (a real bargain compared to your grand): 630 ,-
- fuel pump assembly: 920 ,-
- generator (rotor und stator): 900 ,-
- ECU: 1180 ,-
- exhaust can left: 830,- (right one not available anymore)
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The parts listed above are almost double what a new K2 cost back in the day, just to put some perspective on things
Well that didn't turn out to badly, £20 for a bit of brazing & £10 for primer & satin black paint, job done refitted this morning & all good, let the bike idle until the cooling fan kicked in & no sign of any leaks image0 (2).png
Awesome job Will14 :onya: :clapping:
Quote from: Andre on Saturday, 24 June 2023, 03:10 AMQuote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June 2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand :whatever: crazy money :shocked:
Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.
Suzuki's prices are all over the place. I've been buying a few bits recently.
Short bolts with a bit of an odd shoulder for a 2022 model... AU$3.75 each.
The same bolt but slightly longer (they swap between models) for a 2011 model... AU$45 each.
Quote from: Will14 on Sunday, 25 June 2023, 06:49 AMWell that didn't turn out to badly, £20 for a bit of brazing & £10 for primer & satin black paint, job done refitted this morning & all good, let the bike idle until the cooling fan kicked in & no sign of any leaks image0 (2).png
Thats come out really well. Good job.
I smashed a radiator back in 2008 with a rock and made a real mess of it. $1000 and a wait for a new one. Local rad shop said they'd have a look at it. When I got it back I couldn't even see the damaged area. $75 and still fine 15 years later.
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Sunday, 25 June 2023, 10:11 AMQuote from: Andre on Saturday, 24 June 2023, 03:10 AMQuote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June 2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand :whatever: crazy money :shocked:
Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.
Suzuki's prices are all over the place. I've been buying a few bits recently.
Short bolts with a bit of an odd shoulder for a 2022 model... AU$3.75 each.
The same bolt but slightly longer (they swap between models) for a 2011 model... AU$45 each.
That's nuts for a bolt! Guess that's what ya gotta pay to buy 'genuine' bolts for a 12 year old bike. Probably because they've had to hold that bolt for so many years, still nuts for a bolt though. Think I'd be buying a couple of the $4 ones & cutting & welding a bit more thread onto it.
The $45 ones are longer so you can hook luggage straps on the end. I'm thinking the price is due to them hoping folk will want the old style bolts to fit to the latest model.
The irony is they (the longer ones) were always known as "Frankenstein" bolts and for many years folk have been removing or replacing them with a shorter version anyway.
I understand old stock / desirability / marketing etc but the price difference is waaaaay out.
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(https://i.ibb.co/4Nx9PQy/962-CE6-AD-F470-45-D2-98-E9-D9-A52-F34251-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NYzQZ4h)
(https://i.ibb.co/NZfSKmB/4-D47371-A-0-F6-B-4-D80-A2-BC-DDDFF9413520.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4PCdpYr)
I keep both here as they can be changed in a few seconds and fit all Busa's. 99% of the time I use the flush ones as I don't like the sticky-out ugly bolts but have the long ones for rare days I use luggage.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Sunday, 25 June 2023, 10:18 AMQuote from: Tony Nitrous on Sunday, 25 June 2023, 10:11 AMQuote from: Andre on Saturday, 24 June 2023, 03:10 AMQuote from: hard road on Friday, 23 June 2023, 11:33 PMhave you seen the price for an OEM one ? nearly a grand :whatever: crazy money :shocked:
Assumed Suzuki's exit from the MotoGP was due to financial issues. They clearly need money! So they massively increased prices of stuff they have lying around! Can't justify due to increased production costs.
Suzuki's prices are all over the place. I've been buying a few bits recently.
Short bolts with a bit of an odd shoulder for a 2022 model... AU$3.75 each.
The same bolt but slightly longer (they swap between models) for a 2011 model... AU$45 each.
That's nuts for a bolt! Guess that's what ya gotta pay to buy 'genuine' bolts for a 12 year old bike. Probably because they've had to hold that bolt for so many years, still nuts for a bolt though. Think I'd be buying a couple of the $4 ones & cutting & welding a bit more thread onto it.
What a surprise !!!
I just looked and the very expensive bolts "Luggage Hook Set" are now part of the Gen-3's "Touring Package".
(https://i.ibb.co/TrMHg6K/21314-CF6-9412-49-B8-888-B-EE5658076690.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Xgj7qz)
The black and gold folding clutch and brake levers that replace the standard ones (they work and feel identical) are $463
EACH from Suzuki.
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Sunday, 25 June 2023, 10:15 AMQuote from: Will14 on Sunday, 25 June 2023, 06:49 AMWell that didn't turn out to badly, £20 for a bit of brazing & £10 for primer & satin black paint, job done refitted this morning & all good, let the bike idle until the cooling fan kicked in & no sign of any leaks image0 (2).png
Thats come out really well. Good job.
I smashed a radiator back in 2008 with a rock and made a real mess of it. $1000 and a wait for a new one. Local rad shop said they'd have a look at it. When I got it back I couldn't even see the damaged area. $75 and still fine 15 years later.
Thanks, to be fair the rad had already had a repair when I got the bike back in 2018, it didn't look the prettiest but it did its job
Although I am a bit anal with my bikes and cars it strange how I have changed over the years and prefer to fix things rather than replace with new these days, especially if I'm told it can't be done! If it does another 12 months I have done OK
Cheers
Quote from: Will14 on Monday, 26 June 2023, 07:34 AMAlthough I am a bit anal with my bikes and cars it strange how I have changed over the years and prefer to fix things rather than replace with new these days, especially if I'm told it can't be done! If it does another 12 months I have done OK
thats the way ive always been :undecided: could never afford new so used bits fixed up :grin:
Quite a few years ago I crashed my bike and the radiator took a hit. :whatever:
My local dealer whom I've known for 45 years, said I think I have a spare one off another bike. $100 would you believe it ? It has never missed a beat. :whistling: