Thought ill start a new thread rather than carry on in newbie section.
Im Sam 62 years young. Been riding since 16 and have had all sorts of bikes from fsie to vmax to vstrom but my favourite has to be the bandit 1200 including my last one of 4 years. In 2021 i had a a heart attack and had major open heart surgery with a new carbon valve fitted. Drs told me not to ride again but no way was i going to do that,bikes are my life so to help me back to fitness i thought i would add carbon on my bandit to match my heart valve and started up an instagram page to let my friends and family see my progress so called myself @carbonsam
Now nearly 2 yrs on i thought time for a change dont need two bikes i need one that combines the bandit and vstrom and the gsx came along. What a mistake that was getting rid of a pefect bike for this.so carrying on from my newbie post got done over by a shop and theres no chance of getting my bikes back unless i pay them £1400 for restocking and delivery.
Been to cab i hard every right to cancel
I have no fight in me and the shop knew i would give up . You can never win against these people . I suppose i can report them to mot for worn loose chain and loud exhaust as they passed it or as cab said i refuse tand demand full refund but have to do so in writing. Both ways could take months and i will be without a bike and i cant afford to buy another one so i give up count my loses and will just soldier on.
Need new exhaust system chain and sprovket and hopefully just a good service. Tank is dented so will have that resprayed
Tank looks clean and cant see any oil leaks . The clowns are sending me service kit and chain and sprockets. He even offered me some old end cans but my mate said i can have his from his old gsx.gonna spend 350 on fleecebay for downpipes and mainstand
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Cant add anymore pics as says they are too large and cba now there will be a few go up on instagram when i get round to it . Furst pic ix the ad 2nd is when i got it home and theres few more to show but thatll do for now
I would take your case to the national conciliation. I just did it with my Ducati and finally got the compensation I wanted. Everything has to be in writing and it does take time but I wouldn't let the bastards off the hook.
How on earth didn't you expect exhausts that look like that to be loud?
The only thing the MOT says is if the tester thinks it's 'excessively loud', the tester I used for years rode Ducatis so I could have turned up with open pipes & got a pass.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles/8-exhaust-noise
Chain & sprockets wise, that's another open to opinion as it just says excessively worn.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles/6-structure-and-attachments
That tank is a mess though, wasn't it shown in pics before you got the bike? Or didn't you see it on collection/delivery?
There should be an option in your picture program on your pc that allows resizing of the pics, which you can save in another folder for adding to the thread.
The only thing I can say is that if the dealer hid the damage then they are at fault.
However, I look at their bikes a lot as they are local to me in Malvern ( I stress here that I have no affiliation ) and they do post a lot of pics at all angles. I remember looking at your bike a while ago, unfortunately I cannot remember if any damage was apparent. Did you take the option they offer of a cheaper price for a "trade" sale, i.e. no 52 point check, no warranty, etc ?
I am sure that you will sort this bike out, at least you have the new chain, sprockets, and service kit coming. Just stick the end cans on from your mate, unless the down pipes are totally knackered.
The only expense then is the tank.
I know how you feel B.T.W., cos I just bought mine a couple of months ago, and had to get the tank off for extensive rust removal and pump cleaning.
Good luck and all the best with it.
D.D.
Quote from: Dwain Dibley on Friday, 31 March 2023, 08:14 PMThere should be an option in your picture program on your pc that allows resizing of the pics, which you can save in another folder for adding to the thread.
The only thing I can say is that if the dealer hid the damage then they are at fault.
However, I look at their bikes a lot as they are local to me in Malvern ( I stress here that I have no affiliation ) and they do post a lot of pics at all angles. I remember looking at your bike a while ago, unfortunately I cannot remember if any damage was apparent. Did you take the option they offer of a cheaper price for a "trade" sale, i.e. no 52 point check, no warranty, etc ?
I am sure that you will sort this bike out, at least you have the new chain, sprockets, and service kit coming. Just stick the end cans on from your mate, unless the down pipes are totally knackered.
The only expense then is the tank.
I know how you feel B.T.W., cos I just bought mine a couple of months ago, and had to get the tank off for extensive rust removal and pump cleaning.
Good luck and all the best with it.
D.D.yes bought the cheaper price option but that only applies if you're a trader according to cab.
Those buggers know all the tricks so I'm stuck on that one mate.
I just put my mates original cans on it and sounds lovely however the idle is gone just belie 1k rpm and there's a whistling sound under the tank. What could that be?
Quote from: Hooli on Friday, 31 March 2023, 07:44 PMHow on earth didn't you expect exhausts that look like that to be loud?
The only thing the MOT says is if the tester thinks it's 'excessively loud', the tester I used for years rode Ducatis so I could have turned up with open pipes & got a pass.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles/8-exhaust-noise
Chain & sprockets wise, that's another open to opinion as it just says excessively worn.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles/6-structure-and-attachments
That tank is a mess though, wasn't it shown in pics before you got the bike? Or didn't you see it on collection/delivery?
it's a failure for loud pipes now and chain had failed on first MOT then they done it again and it passed yet they tightened it but now super slack again. None of the damage was shown in the ads and by time driver got here it was late and pissing down with rain I was knackered and that's how they get old people like me. I m stuck with it now
Quote from: sam61 on Friday, 31 March 2023, 09:03 PMQuote from: Dwain Dibley on Friday, 31 March 2023, 08:14 PMThere should be an option in your picture program on your pc that allows resizing of the pics, which you can save in another folder for adding to the thread.
The only thing I can say is that if the dealer hid the damage then they are at fault.
However, I look at their bikes a lot as they are local to me in Malvern ( I stress here that I have no affiliation ) and they do post a lot of pics at all angles. I remember looking at your bike a while ago, unfortunately I cannot remember if any damage was apparent. Did you take the option they offer of a cheaper price for a "trade" sale, i.e. no 52 point check, no warranty, etc ?
I am sure that you will sort this bike out, at least you have the new chain, sprockets, and service kit coming. Just stick the end cans on from your mate, unless the down pipes are totally knackered.
The only expense then is the tank.
I know how you feel B.T.W., cos I just bought mine a couple of months ago, and had to get the tank off for extensive rust removal and pump cleaning.
Good luck and all the best with it.
D.D.yes bought the cheaper price option but that only applies if you're a trader according to cab.
Those buggers know all the tricks so I'm stuck on that one mate.
I just put my mates original cans on it and sounds lovely however the idle is gone just belie 1k rpm and there's a whistling sound under the tank. What could that be?
One could speculate here, that the damage was possibly done by the courier ??
I think the idle is right at about 1100 +/- 100 RPM warm engine. Cold 1600 +/- 100 RPM
D.D.
Quote from: Dwain Dibley on Friday, 31 March 2023, 09:19 PMOne could speculate here, that the damage was possibly done by the courier ??
I think the idle is right at about 1100 +/- 100 RPM warm engine. Cold 1600 +/- 100 RPM
D.D.
idle screw just dropped out I'm calling it a day
To adjust the idle is quite simple.
See below.
Looks like you beat me to it, Kettle on, nice cup of tea and back out there.
D.D.
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Quote from: sam61 on Friday, 31 March 2023, 09:10 PMthere's a whistling sound under the tank. What could that be?
Under or in the tank? you'll normally hear the fuel pump running unless you've got earplugs in or are a bit deaf.
Could also be an air leak to the PAIRs/vacuum system, although personally when I've had that I've not been able to hear it at all.
Quote from: Dwain Dibley on Friday, 31 March 2023, 09:43 PMTo adjust the idle is quite simple.
See below.
Looks like you beat me to it, Kettle on, nice cup of tea and back out there.
D.D.
Manual idle .jpg
Manual idle 2.jpg
cheers dwaine its the screw end of the fast idle screw has come out of the engine end and ive no idea where it goes
When you say fast idle screw, do you mean the fast idle screw you get to under the tank & is vertical by the throttle cables? cause that should never be adjusted, according to the manual it's factory set.
If you mean the normal idle adjuster that sticks out to the side, it goes approximately under the centre of the throttle bodies. You can see the brass coloured end of mine when it snapped a few years ago here. This view would be from the back of the bike & below the TBs.
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Fast idle mentioned in text, automatic adjustment.....no touchy !!
D.D.
Quote from: Dwain Dibley on Saturday, 01 April 2023, 12:17 AMFast idle mentioned in text, automatic adjustment.....no touchy !!
D.D.
Indeed it's a buggery bugger to get right again if you do. I had to strip mine apart when it'd seized up with dirt over the years & being a fool I didn't measure the setting first. It's a lot of trial & error to sort, but it's almost right again.
We've all been there, got summat to bits, and then thought, how does that go back together, or what were the settings again ?? How many turns was it ? :whistling:
D.D.
Not me I've always done the the job right.
Honest give :lol: :rofl2:
Got it back in managed to run it down the road ticking over just fine now woohoo.
Ordered few bits so waiting on all the material is gonna hurt. Always takes forever to get here
Quote from: sam61 on Saturday, 01 April 2023, 04:05 AMNot me I've always done the the job right.
Honest give :lol: :rofl2:
Got it back in managed to run it down the road ticking over just fine now woohoo.
Ordered few bits so waiting on all the material is gonna hurt. Always takes forever to get here
Well, welcome your in the right place for help
Always disappointing to get ripped off, doesn't matter if it's by a dealer or a normal sale. Makes you loose your trust in man kind. Hope you get your bike sorted and can enjoy it the way it should be enjoyed!
Quote from: BbigMmac on Saturday, 01 April 2023, 04:44 PMAlways disappointing to get ripped off, doesn't matter if it's by a dealer or a normal sale. Makes you loose your trust in man kind. Hope you get your bike sorted and can enjoy it the way it should be enjoyed!
thank you mate
Yes the biking world has changed from a close knit society to a dog eat dog world im £1000 out of pocket so far and counting. thats why i always ride alone.
These bars were sold to me as perfect on line. Not same scale as a whole bike i know but annoyed me so much i had to fix them. Youll do same with bike. 003.JPG038.JPG
It's a real shame as the 2 dealers I dealt with were totally straight up, as they said there reputation comes first . First gsx had a whine in the gearbox so after paying for it I rejected it. Both had excellent comprehensive pictures sent that showed every imperfection.
2nd gsx was actually better I the flesh than in the pics, this was all done online etc and the bike was sent to me. You've just been really unlucky unfortunately
In Australia we have Team Moto completely stuffing the motorcycle business slowly but surely. Crap service with a bad attitude, rarely see long term employees, burn & churn, pay shit money & rely on desperados.
If they get returning customers they must be morons 💩💩
Right cheers guys rant over thanks for all the comments. Now lets get on to how i get on restoring it and all that bolloxs :salute:
I'm looking forward to watching the progress here at Dibley Towers Sam :popcorn:
D.D.
What will you do with the tank, will you do a totally different paint job or try to replicate what suzuki did.
Quote from: Phill P on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 08:57 PMWhat will you do with the tank, will you do a totally different paint job or try to replicate what suzuki did.
I'll keep it original mate. My days of customizing bikes has long gone.
I'm afraid it's standard for us old fogies :coffeescreen:
Quote from: Dwain Dibley on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 07:09 AMI'm looking forward to watching the progress here at Dibley Towers Sam :popcorn:
D.D.
Washed it today dwaine and checked it over. Found the following chain really past its sell by date,oil filter rusty as #uck as is the downpipes and collector box. Steering stop on left snapped.
Will sort this out in next couple weeks when I get the parts then should be ok to ride unless something else crops up
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So now i find both reset and select buttons on clocks are not working. :doh: Gonna be a long project
Quote from: sam61 on Monday, 03 April 2023, 12:02 AM:doh: Gonna be a long project
They always are My Friend. More fun that way. :boogie:
D.D.
Bloody hell, I feel for you after seeing those pic's Sam.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Monday, 03 April 2023, 07:14 AMBloody hell, I feel for you after seeing those pic's Sam.
Thanks mate it is a nightmare so far but i will take it to my mechanic and spend what it will take to make it road worthy hopefully be easy on the pocket (not)
In the meantime ive written to the owner of the shop that conned me to beg for a deal to get my bandit back but lets see what happens if its under 2k then i will buy it back
If you don't mind me asking was it super cheap, to swop a clean bandit and vstrom for it I can't imagine it was was. When I was looking at the same time as you prices varied from dealers for a 2002 cat d at £4500 going up to £7000 for 8000 mile super clean 2007.
Mine was £5200 at 24500 miles.
Did you see the bike in the flesh before you purchased it
Mate, id be spending on a lawyer, all that corrosion, just gonna keep finding more. Not a project id take on. Just too much work, far from easy work, hard enough keeping a 14 good but to comeback from that, too much money and effort.Looks like its been dumped in the ocean. Sorry to be harsh but id find another bike.
Quote from: grog on Monday, 03 April 2023, 06:18 PMMate, id be spending on a lawyer, all that corrosion, just gonna keep finding more. Not a project id take on. Just too much work, far from easy work, hard enough keeping a 14 good but to comeback from that, too much money and effort.Looks like its been dumped in the ocean. Sorry to be harsh but id find another bike.
Cant afford anymore than what i spent . If i5s nit right then i quit. Im on a pittahce wofk oension and hafe to wait another 5 years before i get my state pension. Ive nit git a pot to piss in .
You seem to have done the same as me, retired early. I have to be careful not to overspend in any one month.
The bike, it will take longer but it will be worth it in the end. Have a look at Black Widow Exhausts, ( website and ebay)they do a complete system for the 1400.
Plenty of parts out there if you look. :onya:
D.D.
Quote from: Dwain Dibley on Monday, 03 April 2023, 09:57 PMYou seem to have done the same as me, retired early. I have to be careful not to overspend in any one month.
The bike, it will take longer but it will be worth it in the end. Have a look at Black Widow Exhausts, ( website and ebay)they do a complete system for the 1400.
Plenty of parts out there if you look. :onya:
D.D.
Ordered one from black widow in the weekend :lol:
Yes us oldies have to watch the pennies
What silencers did you go for in the end then. ?
D.D.
Quote from: Dwain Dibley on Tuesday, 04 April 2023, 05:13 AMWhat silencers did you go for in the end then. ?
D.D.
Got standard ones for now