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Technically Speaking => General Technical discussion => Topic started by: coptleigh on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 06:50 AM

Title: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: coptleigh on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 06:50 AM
Away for its first service after I bought her, only to be told by the garage, that the sump bolt had been stripped previously and put back with plumbers tape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So its whole exhaust off then the sump and thread repair done, so what started out as a £170 service, £109 for a back tyre fitted, is now going to cost a shit load more for this repair!!!FFS
Sent email to garage I bought her from , but its just over a year and a half since I bought it and due to health reasons, did hardly any miles last year and so kept her off road till things ok,
Not sure if they will claim ignorance, even though they serviced it when I bought it!!!
Prob turn round and say I did it since owning it!!
Wouldn't  have sent it to a local bike shop for the service if that was the case!!!
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: froudy on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 08:08 AM
Ah that's a right sh*tter.
I bet a pound to a penny the garage you bought it from knew full well it was buggered when they sold it to you :furious: :furious:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Mick_J on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 08:46 AM
Probably only came with  three month warranty, so they will most likely tell you to do one.  What a pisser.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: coptleigh on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 09:23 AM
Depending on their attitude tomorrow, whether we resort to social media pressure to name and shame!!!
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 10:09 AM
6/6 warranty.

Six seconds or six feet out the door....
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 03:51 PM
Quote from: froudy on Thursday, 02 March  2017, 08:08 AM
Ah that's a right sh*tter.
I bet a pound to a penny the garage you bought it from knew full well it was buggered when they sold it to you :furious: :furious:

What's a pound & a penny? Isn't it kilograms now?  :whistling: :stir:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 05:41 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 02 March  2017, 03:51 PM
Quote from: froudy on Thursday, 02 March  2017, 08:08 AM
Ah that's a right sh*tter.
I bet a pound to a penny the garage you bought it from knew full well it was buggered when they sold it to you :furious: :furious:

What's a pound & a penny? Isn't it kilograms now?  :whistling: :stir:

Pound and a penny are cash denominations, kilograms is weight  :boogie:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Mrg on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 06:31 PM
ok burn there place down tonight with a petrol bomb through the letter box


at least you will get your money worth back in satisfaction  :smoke:

or is that to much i can never tell
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: grog on Thursday, 02 March 2017, 07:27 PM
mongrels, dealer who sold knew it was stripped. id be cranky. just fix it now, get on with it. the good times will over ride this crap.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Del on Friday, 03 March 2017, 03:11 AM
Pisser fella - I hate dodgy dealers -

If you are stuck Im sure I have a sump in the store

Del
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: seth on Friday, 03 March 2017, 03:24 AM
i had a similar experience at a suzuki dealer in Edinburgh i brought the bking from them saying it wasn't going to be used untill the spring .
first ride out i find the reg/rec is knackered a common problem it had 1 recall and after i sold it another recall.
i contacted the dealer out of warranty they say i wasnt happy they sold me a reg/rec for cost only £100 instead of £200+
plus a battery not from them .
that left a bad taste and i never got on with that bike .
replaced it with a 2nd 14 now a happy chap.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: coptleigh on Sunday, 05 March 2017, 07:25 AM
As I thought, said it could have happened after it left them, totally untrue but due to the length of time, I said I didn't want anything from them as it was in getting repaired at another place!! So Approx £120 for it to be repaired, and back early next week, fully serviced and a new rear tyre also!!
Hope this summers good so I can get my monies worth out of her!!
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Basil Brush on Sunday, 05 March 2017, 11:07 PM
I had a similar shit workmanship from a very well known dealership. Yamaha. Done a service. Out of warranty. I began to do work. Oil filter put on too tight with no oil on seal. It was welded on.

I wish I'd have taken a picture of the mess.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Mick_J on Monday, 06 March 2017, 07:08 PM
Makes you wonder why people do their own servicing rather than rely on the professionals.  :doh:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: seth on Monday, 06 March 2017, 08:01 PM
i do all my own servicing

my 2 local bike shops/dealers bith not worth going to
suzuki/kawasaki/triumph dealer charge for anti-freeze/coolent for the wifes 14
the honda/yamaha dealer charged my friend for 4 spark-plugs on a vtr1000 (a v twin)

i would let any of them near my bikes . :cheers:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Mick_J on Monday, 06 March 2017, 08:47 PM
Have you ever used Bob Ballantyne at Ellon?
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: seth on Tuesday, 07 March 2017, 02:43 AM
i know bob well and buy most of my spare parts from him in fact got 12 spark plugs from him on saturday morning.
i met bob 30 years ago when i first moved up here .
a top man if ever there was one.
:onya:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Mick_J on Tuesday, 07 March 2017, 08:26 AM
Quote from: seth on Tuesday, 07 March  2017, 02:43 AM
i know bob well and buy most of my spare parts from him in fact got 12 soark plugs from him on saturday morning.
i met bob 30 years ago when i first moved up here .
a top man if ever there was one.
:onya:

Yes, I first met him when he worked at Buchan, I used to buy bits from him when I lived there, a great bloke.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: shaun18 on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 05:09 AM
I bought two of these one for my 14 and one for the wifes GSR600. Never need worry about it again.

http://www.quickvalve.co.uk/motorcycles_f111.htm?veh=Suzuki%20GSX%201400%20K1,K2,K3,K4,K5.K6%20(WVBN)%202001-2006

Shaun
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Notty on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 06:50 AM
Quote from: shaun18 on Sunday, 25 June  2017, 05:09 AM
I bought two of these one for my 14 and one for the wifes GSR600. Never need worry about it again.

http://www.quickvalve.co.uk/motorcycles_f111.htm?veh=Suzuki%20GSX%201400%20K1,K2,K3,K4,K5.K6%20(WVBN)%202001-2006

Shaun
Got one of those off Barmy - best thing I have put on the bike !!  :smile2:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Hooli on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 09:23 AM
How do you lot strip them? I've done at least 30 oil changes on mine without an issue.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: KiwiCol on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 09:48 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Sunday, 25 June  2017, 09:23 AM
How do you lot strip them? I've done at least 30 oil changes on mine without an issue.
There's a job for ya Hooli, going round changing the oil for all the members in the UK. Tea & biscuits each time too.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: grog on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 06:27 PM
i thought vlad and kiwi col would say something about fumoto valves after mis fortunes with sump plugs   
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Rod G on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 06:48 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Sunday, 25 June  2017, 09:23 AM
How do you lot strip them? I've done at least 30 oil changes on mine without an issue.

Reasonable question.  If ya cannot finger tighten these things their full thread length, for God's sake don't apply a spanner.  That is exactly how these things get stripped.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Hooli on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 08:03 PM
Exactly. Give the bolt & the bottom of a sump a wipe, spin it in by hand & just tweak it up slightly once tight.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Sunday, 25 June 2017, 10:12 PM
Never had a drama.
New crush washer every time.
You can feel / see the washer go, time to stop swinging on it !!!!
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: KiwiCol on Monday, 26 June 2017, 03:01 AM
Quote from: grog on Sunday, 25 June  2017, 06:27 PM
i thought vlad and kiwi col would say something about fumoto valves after mis fortunes with sump plugs   
Nah, I had a mis fortune with a fumoto valve not the sump plug. Was the riders fault not re-visiting that.  Needless to say, I have a new sump & plug, no fumoto valve this time.
Mind you, as long as I don't go through huge deep pot holes, I'd be fine fitting another one, hmmmmm   maybe . . .
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 26 June 2017, 03:23 PM
Well I managed to rip my sump apart thanks to the sump PLUG contacting a bolt on a steel speed hump.
Given the fumoto has LESS clearance.... then for me... no.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: gsxbarmy on Monday, 26 June 2017, 05:05 PM
It does seem that you guys down under have higher speed bumps than us in the U.K. as I can't remember anyone having issues here, even when driving off kerbs.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: KiwiCol on Monday, 26 June 2017, 05:13 PM
Everything is bigger in Aussie Dave.  :lowside:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: grog on Monday, 26 June 2017, 07:33 PM
of couse it is, even our prime minister is a bigger wanker than anyone elses.
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 27 June 2017, 08:55 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Monday, 26 June  2017, 05:13 PM
Everything is bigger in Aussie Dave.  :lowside:

Please don't tell Mrs B that grog  :lol:
Title: Re: Stripped sump bolt
Post by: VladTepes on Saturday, 01 July 2017, 10:00 PM
Quote from: grog on Monday, 26 June  2017, 07:33 PM
of couse it is, even our prime minister is a bigger wanker than anyone elses.

Yep it's kind of a tradition here...