I was in CMC motorcycles (used to be south wales superbikes) in Newport and they had a K3 in for sale, £5600. Salesman tells me the bike is a low mileage (26000 miles) bike that's fully standard apart from seat (two tone), bar ends and grips. So I said not true, wheels should be white not black, engine covers and forks have been painted and the indicators are non standard. Front brake lever was also new and an aftermarket type so I suspect its had a falling over which explains the new bar ends and grips. Overall the bike looked clean but definitely non standard. Prices seem to be rising quickly, two years ago fleabay had plenty of £2k bikes but now there's non.
Salesmen talk bollocks. One in my local bike shop has been there about 20 years & doesn't even ride bikes!
Who'd buy a bike with 26k on though? that's nearly worn out :whistling:
Wow, at today's exchange rate that's over AUD$10,200.
Good if we have them, bad if we want them.
There's a K7 FE on Facebook with 5492 miles. Asking price 8250 quid.
https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/3706029916081995/?media_id=3&ref=share_attachment
Our bikes are still popular as there is no current replacement from any manufacturer.
But I'd be worried buying an older 14 with a very low mileage as sitting without use is probably worse than doing high mileages with regular maintainance .
A bike at several thousands of pounds more than new price would need to be totally mint and completely standard .
And then your still looking at new tyres and a battery and a full srrvice as a minimum .
Other than that I think any mods are only worth it if someone wants them and if not actually detract from the asking price .
A good gsx1400 with a reasonable mileage is to me worth between £3000 and £4500 if really good.
Bikes as you described Seth are still being offered down here in Australia for low $6,000 to high $7,000. I'd call the used market down here "5,6,7" (thousand dollars) I picked mine up for less than that but it needed a LOT of cosmetic restoration and new tyres but was mechanically ok.
I'd say for the ideal great condition low kms bike you'd be looking at 7-8k but it's rare to see a bike for sake at 8-9k or higher. It'd have to be brand new with zero kms to be worth 9,10 or above.
Having said that there a few 6-7k bikes that haven't sold for ages. I was looking at them when searching for mine and they're still for sale.
At all those prices though these bikes represent astonishing value considering what people are getting for $10-20k these days.
Cut those numbers in half for British pounds.
I paid lots for mine, 10 yrs ago. Totally been worth it. It was supposedly perfect, it was. Suspension settings were off and all the other 14 settings. TPS etc. Fully serviced by dealer, just shows what they do/know. Setting all that stuff, just time not dollars. I bought without seeing, online. Many phone calls, i threatened seller, if not as you say, youre dead. Was exactly as described. Think i looked at it for a few days b4 riding, now would never sell unless forced to. Just part of my life. As for their selling price, really not caring. Seems double in UK.
I don't really care about prices as I'd never sell mine (who'd buy it anyway?) & it doesn't need replacing.
The only time it matters to me is if I breakdown abroad as most breakdown covers include saying they won't recover if it'd cost more to recover it than the bike is worth.
Whilst prices are holding, the 14 will never be a classic in the way that bikes the GT750, CB750 and z900's were. They are a solid every day bike, easy to maintain etc, but there are other options out there like the CB1300 and XJ1300 which realistically are as good.
People who expect £7K or £8K for theirs in standard form are just living in a dream world. Realistically they are holding and selling in the UK about the £2.5-£5K mark (depending on mileage and condition), and I have no doubt they will continue to do so for some years, but whatever one may like to think, they will never be a classic or sought after in the same way as machines of the 70's and 80's.
Remove him from the forum immediately.
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Sunday, 25 October 2020, 07:29 PM
Whilst prices are holding, the 14 will never be a classic in the way that bikes the GT750, CB750 and z900's were. They are a solid every day bike, easy to maintain etc, but there are other options out there like the CB1300 and XJ1300 which realistically are as good.
People who expect £7K or £8K for theirs in standard form are just living in a dream world. Realistically they are holding and selling in the UK about the £2.5-£5K mark (depending on mileage and condition), and I have no doubt they will continue to do so for some years, but whatever one may like to think, they will never be a classic or sought after in the same way as machines of the 70's and 80's.
I actually think the muscle bikes have an era in time as do the 1970's classics and will become classics in their own right in the next 10 years or so. I know the CB1300's and XJR1300's are of the same ilk and are selling for less but for good reason. Why are the Z900's fetching twice the amount of GT750's and CB750's? It's because they are the best of a small group of great bikes, that's exactly what we have with GSX1400's the best of a small group of great bikes. That's why they will always get top dollar and will continue to increase in value and mint ones in the UK are much sort after now as few are available so £7k and upwards is their value. Most of those on offer at less than £5k might look good in photos but go have a look in person and you will see they are tired and neglected and many far from standard. I didn't buy my bike to make money in fact I knew it would be a money pit buying accessories and pampering her like a baby. The top standard bikes will therefore in my opinion always sell as their is always a guy (call me stupid perhaps) like me wanting a mint GSX14 to keep and ride as a hobby and aren't too concerned with price.
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 25 October 2020, 08:08 PM
Remove him from the forum immediately.
Just say the word and I'll go if that's what the forum wants.
We love you really🤣😂🤣
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Sunday, 25 October 2020, 10:02 PM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 25 October 2020, 08:08 PM
Remove him from the forum immediately.
Just say the word and I'll go if that's what the forum wants.
Probably just me Dave, I'm easily upset.
@gsxbarmy you leaving here is the very last thing anyone needs .
Our views on these bikes becoming mega classics is mainly swayed by the fact the folk here can't see past them .
I think there will always be a strong following but a true classic let's wait another 5-10 years and see then .
Others that people know are (mostly 70's bikes with a few more modern ones) were the best bikes you could buy when they were new .
I love my gsx1400's as you all know but I'd be the first to admit it was far from the best bike when it came out (it was a leader in its class) but it's the best bike for my and what I need .
Keep up the great work Dave and let's all agree not to get personal they are only motorbikes after all.
:cheers:
In a WORD DAVE NO NO NO NO NO you stay put ok please :onya:
Well.....if you insist. Thank you
Let's hope they don't become too valuable as I have had a few, bikes and cars that did and it's in someways disappointing when things you love using become too valuable to use, so you then become precious about using them
I got my spare k5 to keep the miles off my k6
K6 only done 56k
The k5 done 30k in 4 years lol
Oh and emma's k6 had just past 60k .
Hardly used so should last a bit yet .
We have lots of plans for trips with them .
:cheers:
Well just for reference, I traded mine in last week. It was a standard 2006 registered K5, with a few slight upgrades like rear hugger, fender extender, heated grips and stainless radiator guard. Apart from that very clean and tidy but not 'showroom'. Mileage was 17,500.
I got £4000 against the new bike, which I thought was fair. We started at £3500 and after some mild haggling that's where we ended up. Of course these values aren't particularly meaningful because another way of looking at it is I got £3500 trade in and £500 off the bike I was buying. All that really matters is the cost to change.
But anyway it suited me. I could have sold it on eBay but then I would have to deal with hordes of idiots and time wasters and I doubt I would have made significantly more. I would have probably put it up for £4500 and then ended up taking £4K anyway because it's October and not that many people are buying. By the time I did all that the bike I wanted could be gone.
Incidentally this is the first time I have ever sold a bike for more than I paid for it - I bought it for £3800 just over 3 years ago. But I have spent a fair bit fixing it up so it's not actually profit.
I will keep an eye out on the classified ads to see if it comes up for sale.
Im on the lookout for another 14 now and after a mint low miler to use and dont care if using it devalues it because what's the point of having it in the first place if I dont use it....
That still wont stop me paying top book for it as Im bloody anal and need it to be mint but not to make any money just what I want.....
People who buy them to hide them to hopefully make a killing one day are bumping up the prices and making me have to pay more for one....but each to their own and I do think one day they will be a collector but who cares....Im not going to let it sit in the garage all them years to make a couple of grand profit when I can use it...just my thoughts 👍🏻
I bought my very nice K3, genuine 23000mls, 18 months ago from a guy who was retiring from bikes (due to age and health issues) for £3500 cash. He also threw in some very useful goodies too. I`ve been more than pleased with my purchase.....
......I could have spent £7k on a minter, but here`s the thing - I bought it to ride, not to look at. I`d have spent £7000 on a painting (or an FS1E :shocked:), if all i wanted to do was look at the thing!
I`ve no doubt that I could sell it now for more than I paid for it, but that doesn`t interest me, `cause then i`d be back to square one wouldn`t I?
Without doubt, `14`s will increase in value over time, but, on paper at least, they`ll never become extremely valuable until they become rare, and that`s not likely to happen for 20yrs.
One day when i`m even more worn out than I am now, i`ll no doubt sell it and get my money back. In the meantime, i`ll ride and enjoy it, clean it and maintain it correctly, without the worry of whether its gonna rain or not while i`m out!
We went for a 200 mile dash the other day, an hour into the ride and i could hardly see for rain. Arrived home with a very sad looking `14. Spent half-hour washing/cleaning it the following morning and she`s good to go again, no harm done! Now thats biking, with no detriment to its resale value in the future! :onya:
They are made to buy, set up properly, ride, enjoy and repair as needed.
That's what I've always done.
My 2007 K7 has 90,000km just over 50,000 miles would be higher but I use multiple bikes, only cleaned with degreaser and soapy water, no highly polished parts. It is well maintained mechanically, and is a work horse. It will be worth lots in the future because it still has the standard exhaust fitted.
Irish, not at all the way id have mine, but i do like it. Well done. 14 are great we know, i really like the way each person has different ideas. I love looking at each take on them, ill never bag anothers perfect. Maybe one, remember that brown one, such a waste. Also the chopper one. Mate at work has annoyed me, slandered my old skool bike for years. Guess what hes now looking to buy.
I bought my K5 in 2015 with 45,000 km on the clock for AU $5,000.
The bike is fairly original and standard. I have an OEM muffler as well as a Staintune muffler which came with the bike. Front disks have been replaced. I have since replaced the tyres with Angel GTs as well as a new chain, sprockets and battery.
Apart from the above I've only changed the oil and filter.
The bike was test ridden and approved by Irish in Oz prior to purchase.
Thanks Jeff, this one is a keeper as well.
Good lookin bike Mate. I just dont like bazookas , just me. Youre buying price was what my Ducati mate lost trading his 2 yr old on new model. I know whos got the better.
The test ride on the blue and white, the big noticeable difference is the black one is faster even with the bazooka.
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Tuesday, 27 October 2020, 07:47 PM
The test ride on the blue and white, the big noticeable difference is the black one is faster even with the bazooka.
:stir: :whistling: :stir: :whistling: :stir: :whistling:
If you like lots of chrome, the bazooka is a must have I reckon :stir: :whistling:
Quote from: 😎KiwiCol on Wednesday, 28 October 2020, 02:25 AM
If you like lots of chrome, the bazooka is a must have I reckon :stir: :whistling:
Saves me the time polishing everything else, I'd rather spend that time riding :)
Taken from the VJMC Australia website today, topic on thoughts on future classics.
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 28 October 2020, 08:58 AM
Saves me the time polishing everything else, I'd rather spend that time riding :)
Riding and having a clean bike aren't mutually exclusive. I'm not a dirt snob but I'm not a shine snob either. I don't see the point in being either. I can spend time quickly shining my bike in my spare time and also ride in my spare time. Plenty of time to do both and these beautiful bikes deserve to be both ridden and clean. My bike is an investment in my enjoyment. I didn't even consider it to be a financial investment (although I bought it pretty cheap and am glad I'll probably never lose money on it) but there's no harm in maintaining a nice thing. Plus I'm sure your bike isn't filthy and even if it is that's the way you enjoy it and that's awesome. As long as we have 14s our worlds are a better place.
FYI: Irish has many many bikes Baz.
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Tuesday, 27 October 2020, 07:47 PM
The test ride on the blue and white, the big noticeable difference is the black one is faster even with the bazooka.
Amazing how recollections of the same event can differ!
The test rider was so impressed he thought it was better than his black one, despite being blue and white and sporting a muffler half the weight of the bazooka.
Anyhow I have a future Classic - a proper naked bike with twin shocks, chrome and more muscle than Popeye on steroids.
That's right Johno
But I was more interested in that classic XR250 sitting in the corner of the garage .
Quote from: 😎KiwiCol on Sunday, 01 November 2020, 01:39 PM
FYI: Irish has many many bikes Baz.
Noted, I'll pull my head in a smidge. Copped a fair bit of flack on FB simply for polishing metal. I'll turn my sensitivity dial back down to 1.
Quote from: SA14 on Monday, 02 November 2020, 08:47 AM
Quote from: 😎KiwiCol on Sunday, 01 November 2020, 01:39 PM
FYI: Irish has many many bikes Baz.
Noted, I'll pull my head in a smidge. Copped a fair bit of flack on FB simply for polishing metal. I'll turn my sensitivity dial back down to 1.
SA14
Stick your neck out mate, wind them up someone has to.