After fitting up a set of these the weekend before last, I have had a good chance to test them out and I must say that other than being a prick to fit, I am very impressed with them. I live on a Mountain road and all Tyres before these always feel a little tippy toey until they warm up, but these Road 5,s feel good right out of the driveway even on a cold and damp road, this morning I was hooking into it, cold only, no damp less than 1 km from my gate as a young buck on a Multistrada came flying up my arse, and there was no movement at all from them and he only caught up on the straight. I ordered a 190 55 rear and the speedo is now only 2 k out at 100, so that was a bonus as well
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Phew that's a relief. In my thread about it (if you remember) my mechanics tsk tsk me on the choice but I'm a fan now. After being assured by you guys I feel pretty confident too although I'm no where needed the skill level to push them it's good to know they'll hang in there with me. I got the Power 5 though. I wonder what the difference is? I hope mine's softer and grippier. Not concerned about mileage so much as safety being a returning rider.
Mine's the 190/50 how out would my speedo be ya reckon?
Impressed that you fitted them yourself :notworthy:
Quote from: SA14 on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 03:25 PM
Phew that's a relief. In my thread about it (if you remember) my mechanics tsk tsk me on the choice but I'm a fan now. After being assured by you guys I feel pretty confident too although I'm no where needed the skill level to push them it's good to know they'll hang in there with me. I got the Power 5 though. I wonder what the difference is? I hope mine's softer and grippier. Not concerned about mileage so much as safety being a returning rider.
Mine's the 190/50 how out would my speedo be ya reckon?
Impressed that you fitted them yourself :notworthy:
my speedo was out about 7 k at 100, as now, reading more than actual, as for fitting them myself, I wouldn`t recommend it , as unlike slicks which can be done mostly by hand and rubber mallet, these were a prick and I won`t bother doing it again unless in an emergency
Wow, so at 100 on my speedo I'm actually doing 107? or 93? Because when I'm sitting on 100 a lot of people creep up on me and I do get the feeling I'm doing under 100.
actual 93/4 according to my GPS, so I sat on the freeway with 110 on the speedo and GPS said 102/103
Quote from: SA14 on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 03:53 PM
Wow, so at 100 on my speedo I'm actually doing 107? or 93? Because when I'm sitting on 100 a lot of people creep up on me and I do get the feeling I'm doing under 100.
If you're on stock tyres and sprockets, the speedo will over read. From memory, mine reads around 60mph when doing 55 (from GPS).
Quote from: numbskull on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 04:42 PM
Quote from: SA14 on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 03:53 PM
Wow, so at 100 on my speedo I'm actually doing 107? or 93? Because when I'm sitting on 100 a lot of people creep up on me and I do get the feeling I'm doing under 100.
If you're on stock tyres and sprockets, the speedo will over read. From memory, mine reads around 60mph when doing 55 (from GPS).
Quote from: steve porter on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 04:27 PM
actual 93/4 according to my GPS, so I sat on the freeway with 110 on the speedo and GPS said 102/103
Ok that's cool then. I can "speed" without speeding. Not only does the buffeting I get at 100 make me feel like I'm doing 140 but I can actually feel cheeky and get away with it. Now that's eating your cake and having it too.
Could this bike get any better? It's like the Magic Pudding of bikes.
Back to sanding...
Quote from: steve porter on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 02:46 PM
After fitting up a set of these the weekend before last, I have had a good chance to test them out and I must say that other than being a prick to fit, I am very impressed with them. I live on a Mountain road and all Tyres before these always feel a little tippy toey until they warm up, but these Road 5,s feel good right out of the driveway even on a cold and damp road, this morning I was hooking into it, cold only, no damp less than 1 km from my gate as a young buck on a Multistrada came flying up my arse, and there was no movement at all from them and he only caught up on the straight. I ordered a 190 55 rear and the speedo is now only 2 k out at 100, so that was a bonus as well
Hi Steve I had the same tyres fitted now for a year and they are a fantastic tyre in the wet and damp really great no worries at all and dry well I just put the bike in the turn and think of the next corner there amazing in my book I won't be looking at any other unless they up grade mich 5 and after a years road use about 900 miles they still look new
Quote from: Mrg on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 05:52 PM
Quote from: steve porter on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 02:46 PM
After fitting up a set of these the weekend before last, I have had a good chance to test them out and I must say that other than being a prick to fit, I am very impressed with them. I live on a Mountain road and all Tyres before these always feel a little tippy toey until they warm up, but these Road 5,s feel good right out of the driveway even on a cold and damp road, this morning I was hooking into it, cold only, no damp less than 1 km from my gate as a young buck on a Multistrada came flying up my arse, and there was no movement at all from them and he only caught up on the straight. I ordered a 190 55 rear and the speedo is now only 2 k out at 100, so that was a bonus as well
Hi Steve I had the same tyres fitted now for a year and they are a fantastic tyre in the wet and damp really great no worries at all and dry well I just put the bike in the turn and think of the next corner there amazing in my book I won't be looking at any other unless they up grade mich 5 and after a years road use about 900 miles they still look new
The Dunlop's that were on it never felt right in the morning when cold, but good as gold wet or dry on the way home, whereas these feel very consistent and confidence inspiring comparatively
steve porter
I change all my own tyres (which I find very easy to do) and have a similar set up to you but what does the tie down strap around the tyre do, never seen that before?
Local bike shop mate was telling me about Road 5, he has a customer with R1250 BMW, commutes to Brisbane, 80k each way, At 40 th k service they were ready to replace b4 next service. Thats the best ive heard from a large bike.
Quote from: mjgt on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 06:48 PM
steve porter
I change all my own tyres (which I find very easy to do) and have a similar set up to you but what does the tie down strap around the tyre do, never seen that before?
When it won't seat and is just pissing out air you pull it in with the ratchet strap, works every time
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 07:15 PM
Local bike shop mate was telling me about Road 5, he has a customer with R1250 BMW, commutes to Brisbane, 80k each way, At 40 th k service they were ready to replace b4 next service. Thats the best ive heard from a large bike.
That's impressive, I got 12 out of the Dunlop's
Quote from: steve porter on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 07:23 PM
Quote from: mjgt on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 06:48 PM
steve porter
I change all my own tyres (which I find very easy to do) and have a similar set up to you but what does the tie down strap around the tyre do, never seen that before?
When it won't seat and is just pissing out air you pull it in with the ratchet strap, works every time
Thanks mate, only had that problem once but if it happens again I will try it. :onya:
Quote from: mjgt on Wednesday, 21 October 2020, 06:48 PM
steve porter
I change all my own tyres (which I find very easy to do) and have a similar set up to you but what does the tie down strap around the tyre do, never seen that before?
Maybe I'm going soft in my old age as I struggled to get the old ones off more than getting the new ones on, don't remember ever having that much trouble before
Nearly due rear Angel. Front only 5k old. Havent had Michelin for years but your reviews making me wonder. 7 years with Angels, maybe a change , maybe not. The Devil you know and all that crap. Havent ever had a problem with Angels. My last Michy were PR3, werent a good tyre but thats a while ago. Tram tracked very bad, didnt turn in. More thinking.
As l've said before l'm on my second set of Road 5's. Had 3 sets of Pilot Road 4's before them.
With my last set of tyres l changed the rear to a 55 profile (which l prefer). I wanted to be able to compare apples with apples so stayed Michelin otherwise l would have tried the Pirelli GT2's. Now l'm like you Grog, l'm real happy with the way the bike rides so will be sticking with the devil l know in the future..
Besides l have more in common with the Michelin Man :facepalm:
Fitted my new Michelin road 4's yesterday.Love having a mainstand after 9 yrs of nothing(gsxr1000).
Easy job ,but when I got to the front wheel (with a car jack and a piece of wood under the headers) I found the front wheel just finger tight! No danger with the hex bolts nipping up the axle but now the wierd wear on one side of the front tyre might explain itself? Bike has done 21kms so the previous owner or mechanic hasn't nipped up the axle when fitting?
Can't wait to get out friday,new tyres are fantastic huh ?
Yep.
Hey Roo, is the odd wear on the right side (as you sit on it) of the front?
Always is Col in my time. My last front Angel took 19th ks to do it. Bridgestone on mates 600 Honda took 4. Totally stuffed.
Quote from: 😎KiwiCol on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 04:55 PM
Hey Roo, is the odd wear on the right side (as you sit on it) of the front?
Yeah mate, I'm since been told road camber here in NZ ???? never experienced it on any of my previous 53 bikes !!!! ??
The previous owner was a tourer and didn't or hadn't adjusted the Susp . Not much air in the tyres either ??
No, it's not the road camber, it's the fact that right hand bends are longer (on left hand driving roads) than left hand bends. 3 times as far actually. Which means that side of the front tyre has been in contact with the road (leaning going round corners) much much more than the left, hence the greater wear.
My Michy's do the same. It's at the stage now where it's a very noticeable 'drop' as I lean it over. Time for some newbies, but it's boating season too & the boat is a very thirsty thing, so something has to wait.
Jeez Col..... now you are saying right hand bends are causing three times more damage to the environment than left hand bends.
I feel a climate change emergency coming on !!
I love speedway..... the greenies motorsport :boogie:
Quote from: 😎KiwiCol on Thursday, 26 November 2020, 08:49 AM
No, it's not the road camber, it's the fact that right hand bends are longer (on left hand driving roads) than left hand bends. 3 times as far actually. Which means that side of the front tyre has been in contact with the road (leaning going round corners) much much more than the left, hence the greater wear.
I've never heard that one ! I always liked lefts better ,so just maybe I wore the shit out of the left side to match the right,maybe ? lol. In olden days if you saw a tyre worn on one side on the front there was a suspicion that the bike had ,had a bang and the frame was not straight. Live and learn huh ? I'll keep the pressures up and see how these new ones develope I reckon.
Well, yes. We should all do Left only, I'm sure they'd like that.
Roo, if you feel inclined, draw a T intersection on some graph paper, (like a maths book) then measure / count the squares for a bike in the left lane to turn left into the centre of the lane, then do the same for a right turn. Pretty sure it's 3 times the distance / squares. Could be twice, been a while since I did this & can't recall exactly.
Interesting though.
A tire only wears when it's in contact with a surface. If it spun in mid air without touching anything & it'd never wear. When we ride upright, only the centre of the tire wears, sure we've all seen that. At the other end of the spectrum are racers, they spend most of their time leaned over & so their edges wear out first, sure we've all seen that too. Our wear is because the right hand bends are longer & we spend more time leaned over to complete the turn than we do for a left. :imrgreen:
:stir: :stir:be fair, all corners matter
What about the roundabouts.
naturally all roundabouts matter as well.
Here's a shot of my Pilot 5's I scored as a bargain for $400 for the pair. The grip is increasing with a bit more wear and two up they have been very confidence inspiring. :hat:
Bargain !
New rubber and 90⁰ valve stems. Looking forward to getting out on them. Tyres are made in Spain :onya:
Had a set on for 12,000 Ks now ,best wearing tyre i have had on so far, great dual compound rubber only comment i would make on the down side is they seem a little squirrily in the wet . Might try a set of angels next as most say they are superior but the 5s are a great tyre as far as I'm concerned, happy trails, did you end up fitting them yourself ?
That was me Horse & yes I will be doing it. Brought the gear, (tire changer stand, 3 more tire levers, Michelin ones, and a static balancer & weights.) Thought stuff it, if I don't use it much I can always sell it or give it to the grandkids. Haven't got round to doing it yet, long weekend here & been prepping the boat for it's first run out after winter layup.
I've got those same valves to install as well Col, got 4 of them for some reason?? dunno why or how.
All you kiwis look the same :doh: my mistake, im with you the gear will pay for itself in a couple of changes ,no one else will damage your rims and a little job satisfaction to boot
Battalax T32 just fitted as cant get so many makes of rear tyres due to Uk transport problems and Brexit :bugga:
No pilot 5 rears available only pilot 4 - no Metzler 01se front or rear- no Dunlop Roadsmart 111 rears and I rang 5 suppliers :bugga:
Damn near went back to Pilot Road 4's as shop had a pair for $400. What stopped me was I wanted 55 rear profile. So finished up with 5's for $600 fitted plus valve stems another $34 for the pair. Just disappointed that the guys in the workshop are not a little more caring. Not hard to clean the old wheel weight tape off and not scratch the shit out of the valve stems. A piece of rag in the jaws of the pliers would have sufficed. Maybe I'm too fussy or my expectations are too high.
Supply is not great here either Notty, l was lucky to get a pair. Interesting was that the front was made in Sept 21 and the rear was in Oct 20.
Quote from: Notty on Thursday, 21 October 2021, 05:34 PM
Battalax T32 just fitted as cant get so many makes of rear tyres due to Uk transport problems and Brexit :bugga:
No pilot 5 rears available only pilot 4 - no Metzler 01se front or rear- no Dunlop Roadsmart 111 rears and I rang 5 suppliers :bugga:
They're very similar to the T31s I've got on now Notty, no complaints so far. Good choice
I've got Angel ST's on mine , a thousand miles on them now and I'm very happy with them :onya:
I've just put Avon Storm 3D XMs on my Sprint, no supply issues as I got them cheap about a year ago off someone who'd tried them for a few hundred mile & didn't like them. Judging by the wear on them that's because his rear shock is knackered or setup wrong...
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Thursday, 21 October 2021, 05:53 PM
Damn near went back to Pilot Road 4's as shop had a pair for $400. What stopped me was I wanted 55 rear profile. So finished up with 5's for $600 fitted plus valve stems another $34 for the pair. Just disappointed that the guys in the workshop are not a little more caring. Not hard to clean the old wheel weight tape off and not scratch the shit out of the valve stems. A piece of rag in the jaws of the pliers would have sufficed. Maybe I'm too fussy or my expectations are too high.
Supply is not great here either Notty, l was lucky to get a pair. Interesting was that the front was made in Sept 21 and the rear was in Oct 20.
yeah Kiwi, I went with the 4's for that price (Jew boy here ).... lol seem to be wearing great ,certainly better than sports tyres all my life...
They are a nice tyre Roo, had 3 sets before the 4's.
was sucking on a cigar in Pahiatua yesterday (first ride in months) a guy rocked up on a Duc panagali thingy.....
I noticed he was wearing Road 5's !!! great choice for more mileage huh ? Usually those guys like the lastest sticky stuff.
Yeah, sure you are mate. Been a long time since I've seen a tire look like that, guess they're still around.
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Saturday, 23 October 2021, 05:42 AM
They are a nice tyre Roo, had 3 sets before the 4's.
I meant before the 5's :facepalm:
Quote from: KiwiCol on Saturday, 23 October 2021, 10:44 AM
Yeah, sure you are mate. Been a long time since I've seen a tire look like that, guess they're still around.
yeah haha looks like over an inch of chicken strip huh ?? I used to run supercorsas on my old bandit in the winter series few years ago . Melted edges looked serious stuff. On road rides guys would comment on my tyres thinking I was a madman ????? lol.
Pissed down today for our riding course. Was a bit concerned about not having scuffed the tyres in. I did give them a good scrub with dishwashing liquid and a scotchbright pad. Today l learned you don't need to scrub them in. Apparently 'good' quality tyres these days don't use the release agent that used to cause problems. Well pleased with my Road 5's not so pleased with the right angle valve stems. Hard to check the pressures.
Glad you like them Col. Still on angels,3rd set. reluctant to change, 8 yrs now. I still give newies a rub over with emery paper, old habits die hard. Bad news about valve stems, was getting them next change. Was also thinking a Milwaukee or Ryobi batt inflator. Set pressure, all done.
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Sunday, 24 October 2021, 03:23 PMnot so pleased with the right angle valve stems. Hard to check the pressures.
I'm surprised by that, I found they made things a lot lot easier.
Quote from: Hooli on Sunday, 24 October 2021, 07:47 PM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Sunday, 24 October 2021, 03:23 PMnot so pleased with the right angle valve stems. Hard to check the pressures.
I'm surprised by that, I found they made things a lot lot easier.
Me too, I have put them on every bike I get my hands on for years, must be the gauge you are using
That may be true Steve. The Oxford digital gauge that l keep on the bike just didn't work. Finished up using a PCL inflator & gauge tool that's in my workshop. Will persevere as they look OK and should make life easier.
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Valve stems with the cap go on the outside of the wheel Kiwifruit....
:stir:
Thanks for that Eric they didn't come with any instructions :confused1:
Seriously though, I had trouble with the standard ones and the angled fittings on the typical servo inflation chucks. Since fitting right angle stems so much easier, but if you're using a gauge with a right angle fitting, it can make it difficult to check. My trusty manual gauge has a 45deg fitting and this works very well together with the right angle valve stems.
My gauge 90⁰ but fits on OK. The issue looks like it doesn't make contact with the pin in the center of the schrader valve.
Col, get a straight push on digital gauge/ inflator. Work so well. Snap On/ Wurth about $120 but i bought copy, $35, works as good as others.I can compare as Wurth etc at work, copy at home. Best thing youll buy.
Thanks Greg will scout one out. I do see the Wurth rep but like you say bit pricey and their calenders are not as good as they used to be.
Col, would like to put link up, then my ebay history all gets shown. Dont know a way around that, does anyone?
150 miles on the Battalax T32 - bike is transformed !! :) :) :) :) :)
Was it 150 straight miles
@Notty :doh: :doh: :doh: those chicken strips are massive :rofl2:
Quote from: GSXKING on Monday, 25 October 2021, 08:40 PM
Was it 150 straight miles @Notty :doh: :doh: :doh: those chicken strips are massive :rofl2:
endless rain and wet roads so taking it steady Chris :)
@GSXKING
Quote from: Notty on Monday, 25 October 2021, 08:37 PM
150 miles on the Battalax T32 - bike is transformed !! :) :) :) :) :)
I thought the same Notty. Such a pleasure to ride a bike on new tyres.
Quote from: grog on Monday, 25 October 2021, 07:01 PM
Col, would like to put link up, then my ebay history all gets shown. Dont know a way around that, does anyone?
@grog That link you refer to above, only shows your history to you,
when someone else (me) opens the link it opens in their own e-bay, says Gidday Col on it. Your details aren't shared. Just sayin.
Quote from: Notty on Monday, 25 October 2021, 08:54 PM
Quote from: GSXKING on Monday, 25 October 2021, 08:40 PM
Was it 150 straight miles @Notty :doh: :doh: :doh: those chicken strips are massive :rofl2:
endless rain and wet roads so taking it steady Chris :)
@GSXKING
I keep forgetting about the weather variance
@Notty :onya:
We will be cheering if it rains here for any length of time, our dams are emptying quickly in S.E. QLD. they have forecast El Nino so fingers crossed :notworthy:
Quote from: GSXKING on Tuesday, 26 October 2021, 04:40 PM
Quote from: Notty on Monday, 25 October 2021, 08:54 PM
Quote from: GSXKING on Monday, 25 October 2021, 08:40 PM
Was it 150 straight miles @Notty :doh: :doh: :doh: those chicken strips are massive :rofl2:
endless rain and wet roads so taking it steady Chris :)
@GSXKING
I keep forgetting about the weather variance @Notty :onya:
We will be cheering if it rains here for any length of time, our dams are emptying quickly in S.E. QLD. they have forecast El Nino so fingers crossed :notworthy:
I am having extra downpipes fitted to my guttering because the existing cant cope with the torrential rain and its been there for 20 years :bugga:
@GSXKING
We have 2 x 30,000 litre tanks both are overflowing at present. All our water is caught on our roofs We are not on town water supply. Just had 3 days of light but steady rain.
Have you ever run out with that much water on hand? I've been thinking about tanks for our retirement place & was going for 30,000L & you have 2!! Maybe I need to upsize that for a dollar extra . . .
Been close Col, but then the boss likes to water the garden in height of summer so we use plenty. Just goes to show how much rain falls that would go to waste. We have plenty of roof area to catch it.
84mm in 75 mins my place last night. Sure did rain.