Does anyone have experience with 17 teeth front sprocket on our bike?
I know, 14 have a lot of torque, but I'm just wondering :)
Have a play on Gearing Commander northern...It'll give you some idea of how a 17t will affect things.
I would imagine that it would liven accelleration up a bit, as if it wasn't fast enough already ;)
http://www.gearingcommander.com/
A 17 tooth front sprocket is oem size for a gen 1 Busa. Straight swap.
Actually, I know how to do it and I have done -1 teeth on my previous 600cc yamaha... I know where to get sprocket and it's not expensive at all.
Theoretically: higher torque on rear wheel, but "shorter" gears. Or actually, sorter time between switching gears... But what about feeling?
Just want to know - will I feel it during acceleration? :) (I'm not saying 14 is to slow for me :) )
Do you have experience with 14?
I haven't done it on mine as I'm happy as is due to mostly motorway miles..
I guess for the cost of a 17T sprocket it would be worth just trying it to see if you like it or not.
you right, this is what I probably will do...
Quote from: northern on Tuesday, 21 February 2017, 06:27 AM
you right, this is what I probably will do...
I`d be keen to know how it goes :) been thinking about the same myself.
I put a 19 on mine and don't really notice much difference with acceleration but its a fair bit longer in gears meaning no gear change half way thru an intersection when pulling away from lights. it also makes speedo accuracy about 100% accurate, improves fuel economy and range and I wouldn't now go back to stock.
there is of course this spreadsheet you can download from here, which you can play with to adjust tyre sizes and sprocket ratios to "see" the impact before purchasing
http://gsx1400owners.org/forum_test/index.php?topic=362.0
Quote from: Bov on Tuesday, 21 February 2017, 05:46 PM
I put a 19 on mine and don't really notice much difference with acceleration but its a fair bit longer in gears meaning no gear change half way thru an intersection when pulling away from lights. it also makes speedo accuracy about 100% accurate, improves fuel economy and range and I wouldn't now go back to stock.
Where did you find a 19T sprocket Bov?
I hunted for one a while back, with no success :confused1:
Bov, i like that idea, couple of questions. does chain length need to be changed ? bike obviously handles it ok. no harder to take off? no clearance probs as youve done it. 3k revs is now spot on 100 you think? where do i get one? thanks mate.
Quote from: GSXIV on Tuesday, 21 February 2017, 05:39 PM
Quote from: northern on Tuesday, 21 February 2017, 06:27 AM
you right, this is what I probably will do...
I`d be keen to know how it goes :) been thinking about the same myself.
Have to wait few months, before I would be able to roll out. Usually only in aprill I'm starting my season :( (only because of weather conditions :) )
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 21 February 2017, 06:16 PM
there is of course this spreadsheet you can download from here, which you can play with to adjust tyre sizes and sprocket ratios to "see" the impact before purchasing
http://gsx1400owners.org/forum_test/index.php?topic=362.0
those are numbers... feeling is much more important :)
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 21 February 2017, 07:29 PM
Bov, i like that idea, couple of questions. does chain length need to be changed ? bike obviously handles it ok. no harder to take off? no clearance probs as youve done it. 3k revs is now spot on 100 you think? where do i get one? thanks mate.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Esjot-Sprocket-Front-19T-SUZUKI-GSX-1400-2001-2008-/172473559719?hash=item282839aaa7:g:uV8AAOSwKfVXDo8F
Dammit. The sensible bov option or the quick 17t option... decisions....
Wait. Leave as is is cheapest!
Can't find a 19T front sprocket in the UK :furious:
Quote from: froudy on Wednesday, 22 February 2017, 12:56 AM
Can't find a 19T front sprocket in the UK :furious:
Not even Sprocket Unlimited or Talon?
Quote from: Blubber on Wednesday, 22 February 2017, 01:01 AM
Quote from: froudy on Wednesday, 22 February 2017, 12:56 AM
Can't find a 19T front sprocket in the UK :furious:
Not even Sprocket Unlimited or Talon?
Good point Blubber...I was hunting on Ebay.
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 21 February 2017, 07:29 PM
Bov, i like that idea, couple of questions. does chain length need to be changed ? bike obviously handles it ok. no harder to take off? no clearance probs as youve done it. 3k revs is now spot on 100 you think? where do i get one? thanks mate.
chain length should be ok and clearance is fine. Rpm is about 2950 at indicated / true 100 according to sat nav. As snapey said metalgear who are in north brisbane and on ebay stock them
thanks Snapey n Bov. will get one for next chain renew. Esjot are highly rated. 120 bucks cheaper than oem. will get both sprockets from them. my chain will be zzz EK, supposedly the best. cant fault the EK i have at moment. very good price.
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/sprockets/bike/suzuki/2003/gsx1400-k3/renthal-front-sprocket-18-tooth-530-pitch-oe
I ordered Renthal fron and rear from US if I remember correct, but I suppose if you drop those guys an email, they might have em ordered.
Quote from: BlackAdder on Saturday, 11 March 2017, 08:56 AM
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/sprockets/bike/suzuki/2003/gsx1400-k3/renthal-front-sprocket-18-tooth-530-pitch-oe
I ordered Renthal fron and rear from US if I remember correct, but I suppose if you drop those guys an email, they might have em ordered.
I've never been impressed with Demon Tweeks...
It's always "Prices From" which puts me off right away. If they can't state their price then I'm not even going to bother looking any further :furious:
Oh, didn't know that.
I actually ordered my renthal fron sprocket from kneedraggers.com but I suppose they dont exist anymore. But back then it cost 26$ and it was actually 16 teeth :imrgreen:
Motorbike bits are a secondary thing for Demon Tweeks, it's mostly car stuff they are into.
Quote from: mjgt on Saturday, 11 March 2017, 09:09 PM
Motorbike bits are a secondary thing for Demon Tweeks, it's mostly car stuff they are into.
Yes..That's true.
The service from these guys is excellent, if they dont have it in stock, they get it, or make it..............
http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/
Got a 17 tooth front on mine, and it's quite lively......
Quote from: kja on Sunday, 12 March 2017, 10:24 PM
The service from these guys is excellent, if they dont have it in stock, they get it, or make it..............
http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/
I've used them for my last 4 sets of Renthal 789's.
Delivered to my door in Brisbane, quicker and cheaper than ordering them in at my local shop. I'm happy to deal with them again .
So, finally I have installed 17 tooth front sprocket.
What can I say - I like it. But I did like my 14, before installing smaller sprocket, also :). Bike seems being little bit more sharp, but I totally accept, it may be placebo effect.
Next Saturday, if weather will be OK, I will take a part in drag race, and if my times will be better then last year (best was 11.8 on 1/4mile) then there is a point of using 17 tooth front sprocket.
I find this article: http://www.superstreetbike.com/bigger-rear-sprocket-makes-more-horsepower-mythbusters
According to this, no power gain should be. Even opposite... :( But I assume, power loss is statistical error... If someone have some dyno run examples on any bikes with different sprockets, please share them here.