My back tyre after coming home from Belgium it's now done 9000 miles
Still feeling very planted and surefooted.
Excellent Seth! Looks like it's got a few mile left on it yet :onya:
Looks good, I might try them next.
@ARH I hope so as they need to do a few miles yet this year.
I got 12000 out of the last set
And you'll see we do big miles loaded up and motorways when needed so the tyres don't get an easy time .
Welcome back Seth..
That's good to hear about your tyres.. As you know I get a set fitted on Wednesday afternoon due to your high recommendations..
Might take my wheels in loose.. Not cos I'm tight (but I am !!) but cos I don't want some gorilla to chip my newly painted front forks..
Speedy... only got 750 miles on my gt's but well impressed!
Thats brilliant..
I only got 525 on my Michelin PR4's
So at least we are heading in the right direction.
That looks in remarkable condition for 9000 miles. Well cared for. What pressure do you run when loaded up?
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Saturday, 04 August 2018, 03:56 AM
Thats brilliant..
I only got 525 on my Michelin PR4's
So at least we are heading in the right direction.
Sorry bud... realised I confused you... I meant I've only had them on for 750 miles... :cheers:
2bar/36psi in the front 2.5bar /42psi in the rear .
That's amazing for 9k. Anything I've ever run would have worn though & popped by then.
It's why I keep going for the Pirelli gt's they are a good tyre wet or dry very stable and last for ages I used to get 6000 miles from a pair of Angel st's
So are worth the extra ££
:cheers:
My rear Angel just clocked 19000ks/11800 miles. Unreal tyres. 36psi fr/38 rear. Front wore off on rhs, replaced at 17000. Dirty old tyre pic, just picked up grass mowing remnants. Reckon another 3th ks left. PR3 previous did 14000ks. Bridgestone prior to that, front was stuffed less than 5 th ks.
My Michelin "PR4" after 7,300 miles...
Not bad wear in that mileage to be fair..
But they do get more sensitive to road imperfections as they wear..
I can't believe how much you guys get out of a tyre. I had PR4's n they were dead at about 15000k, or close to 10,000 mile. Maybe I need the heavier build casing? It'll be the extra weight of my wallet (NOT) adding to the shorter demise of the said unit. Couldn't be the pies n beer, that's health food.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Sunday, 05 August 2018, 02:49 PM
I can't believe how much you guys get out of a tyre. I had PR4's n they were dead at about 15000k, or close to 10,000 mile. Maybe I need the heavier build casing? It'll be the extra weight of my wallet (NOT) adding to the shorter demise of the said unit. Couldn't be the pies n beer, that's health food.
Beer, made from hops, that's your greens.
Pies, pastry is flour which is a plant, meat is from animals, they are made from consuming grass and crops.
Hell Col, your almost a vegetarian !
"Processed vegetarian" - probably am! Speaking of that, I hear another 'vegie burger' of hops & malt calling :cheers:
Same here Col. I can not believe the mileage they are getting & if it makes you feel better, it's not weight related. I'm 80kgs & only got 11,000 kms (6800 miles) our of my last Angel GT's & the rear was absolutely shot.
This is my current rear with 5800 kms on it
And I won't be getting any more than that out of it, as it seems I picked up a nice nail on my 3 day trip :furious:
Sweaty, no idea why it lasts. im 85kg, no burnouts, not the fastest rider but not the slowest. as i said, 14 th. ks and pr3 michy stuffed. these are far superior to pr3, no tram tracking the reason why. as michys wore, got worse, these dont seem to change. just glad i found them. my rear is going to outlast front by 5 to 6 th ks, never had that b4. because pirelli so good on bike, i fitted to car. 60ks later, not 60 th, front rh had tread separation. they said fitted wrongly, no compensation. i fitted them, yeah im good at it, was really annoyed. had to buy another tyre. bastards, it was faulty . do i like pirelli, yes &no.
Mine look like your sweaty, on the edges, the blocks get 'rounded' at the trailing edge. Looking at Seths (1st post) his are not like that, think Grog's are, but his pic is a bit blurry in that area. No burnouts from me either. I'll be back on mine this week, got some new rego arriving after 'technically' being laid up for 3 months. It's possible it's been out for a few runs over that time though . . .
No complaints about the tyre at all & will keep putting them on for sure. Just don't think I'm hard on the tyres and not the fastest rider by far & definitely no burnouts or stupid stuff, but when I see and read the kms some of you are getting out of them, it blows me away. Most of my riding is at a reasonable pace and always trying to keep away from boring roads etc.
This was the set before that was changed at 11,000kms (in case you thought I changed them early:)
Sweaty, got me stuffed. cant think why. our roads prob warmer, should destroy tyres more. obv. you check pressures, so not that. big diff. in 11 to 23th. ks. scratching my head, how did front go? just cant understand, perplexing, isnt that a big word. :grin:
Got your moneys worth out of that one Steve! Those edges look like Irish has had it!
It is very perplexing Grog :) & always check & keep them at 36f/38r unless loaded up.
Anyway, all good & will see what I get out off the next one in comparison. :cheers:
Quote from: KiwiCol on Monday, 06 August 2018, 07:04 PM
Got your moneys worth out of that one Steve! Those edges look like Irish has had it!
I sure did Col, and I can't keep up with Irish or Snapey 😳
@KiwiCol Rounded/build-up edges are suspension related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLbxcYVEPYc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLbxcYVEPYc)
Thanks Andre, great video again.
I did notice that wear pattern on that set and did google to look into it and made an adjustment, but that video is even more informative.
I will keep an eye on the wear on this set & if need be, I think a visit to a suspension guru for a professional set up might be advisable.
I did use the mcn settings originally to get started.
Suspension guru is a good choice :)
For those who want to do it themselves, this is a good starting point:https://www.sportrider.com/sportbike-suspension-guide (https://www.sportrider.com/sportbike-suspension-guide)
And the videos from Dave Moss. Especially the older ones as he has "progressed" to post mostly trailers to his premium content.
Agree totally, suspension settings.
i was with my mate Jezza yesterday he does a lot of tyre trials for Bridgestone which are on the Bandit, I was telling him I run Angel GT's on the 14 and he thinks they are a great tyre (A spec of coarse).
He getting KTM to ship his Superduke back over so I can try it out.
Well I just replaced the Michie PR4 on the front of mine (with another the same), but will go for a new front and rear when next change needed. Based on other reports, seriously considering the Pirelli Angel GT. Not sure whether its likely to be better than a Michelin PR5 (of which I have no experience either) but then again if the Pirelli is as good as the reports here suggest, it doesn't really matter.
I had a quick look on the Pirelli website and it states there are NO Pirelli motorcycle tyre dealers in Brisbane. I suspect that's not accurate though...
i suspect thats very wrong Vlad.
https://store.brisbanemotorcycles.com.au/new-pirelli-angel-gt-front-tyre-120-70-17-motorcyc
Give them a try Vlad, great tyres.
When I bought my 1400 it had Michelins fitted.
The front needed replacing fairly soon so I went with the Pirelli Angel GT recommended by my local supplier. Soon after I got a screw in the rear tyre and needed it replaced as well with a matching rear.
All done without any recommendations from my Irish Test Pilot friend and 1400 Guru!
Very happy with Angel GTs at both ends. Great to hear such positive feedback from Forum members on mileage wear.
Quote from: Johno on Friday, 04 January 2019, 10:02 PM
All done without any recommendations from my Irish Test Pilot friend and 1400 Guru!
I'll ask the question before Irish does ... did you get "A" spec? :stir:
Thanks for raising the issue Snapey. I wasn't aware there were options.
I checked both tyres and they each have an "A" after the GT.
Very happy with both and have covered 8,000kms very little sign of wear apart from the usual scuffing.
I'm a fairly easy going rider as Jeff will testify.
The GT's were recommended and fitted by Procycles.
While I've read mixed reviews of this outlet they have been good to deal with regarding tyres.
I like to take the wheels off myself and get the tyres fitted. This allows me to check things are correct and I lube the diff splines on the GS1000G.
Quote from: Snapey on Saturday, 05 January 2019, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Johno on Friday, 04 January 2019, 10:02 PM
All done without any recommendations from my Irish Test Pilot friend and 1400 Guru!
I'll ask the question before Irish does ... did you get "A" spec? :stir:
Do we need A Spec then? :whistling: or just Irish? :stir: Why does he want A Spec? :whatever: Thought they were for busses like the Wing etc
A tougher casing is probably not a bad idea here in Australia.
Your roads might be a lot smoother than some of the goat tracks over here.
I think i got banned sprouting about Angels. Isnt that correct Col. My front lasted 19th ks, rear in pic just clicked up 22th. Reports on new 5 Michelins on large bikes are saying up to 40th ks. Incredible. Front in pic is just 3 th ks. Best tyres ive used, Diavel has Rossos, i cant feel any advantage.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Saturday, 05 January 2019, 01:17 PM
Quote from: Snapey on Saturday, 05 January 2019, 12:01 PM
Quote from: Johno on Friday, 04 January 2019, 10:02 PM
All done without any recommendations from my Irish Test Pilot friend and 1400 Guru!
I'll ask the question before Irish does ... did you get "A" spec? :stir:
Do we need A Spec then? :whistling: or just Irish? :stir: Why does he want A Spec? :whatever: Thought they were for busses like the Wing etc
Well in Australia anyway you will be supplied A spec unless you ask for B, I was told this by the main importer Carlisle Tyres.
Shit l got it all wrong.
Thought he meant "A bro"
As in."got new tyres A Bro"
Also think some folk get 19 years out of their tyres not 19 thousand km's. :rofl2:
Can't beleive that tyre has 22k on it Grog, still looks like new :onya: :clapping:
What he's not telling ya Sweaty is he left it running on the main stand for 20,000 of those 22,000. :stir: :whistling:
Quote from: KiwiCol on Monday, 07 January 2019, 01:50 PM
What he's not telling ya Sweaty is he left it running on the main stand for 20,000 of those 22,000. :stir: :whistling:
Now, that makes sense Col :happy1:
Youre onto me Col, thought id tricked yas. Bugger. Yeah, i wonder myself, just hasnt changed last 5 or 6 th.
Cause you ride like the wind . . .barely touching the road. :cheers:
Think I ride like heavy hail then :grin:
Thanks Col, ill remember that. Seriously, dont do that often, worries me into changing, away on a ride and it ends quickly. Bike shop local, he services a 1200 bmw, over 30 th on Michelin 5, reckons it has 10 left. Mine have never slipped, caused a drama, amazing tyres. As i said before, Rossos on Diavel also brilliant but for my riding cant see them as better. Cant accuse me of having Diavel on centrestand, doesnt have one. Does have a paddock stand, scares me using it. Can remember a ride in 80s, bloke on 1000 Kawa, destroyed rear in 1 th ks. Sure have improved.
OK, OK I know I dont own a GSX14 any more..
But when I did own her I fitted a set of Angel GT's and loved the difference from the Michelin PR4's..
Angels were immune to road surface irregularities..
I have some sort of Bridgestone tyres on my MT-01 and they really DO NOT inspire confidence at all..
Very twitchy in the wet.. In fact I can spin the rear in 3rd, 4th and even 5th (Top) on wet roads.
The MT-01 produces 150nm of torque so maybe thats part of the issue..
It may have R1 front and Rear forks / suspension but its not a bike I feel inclined to throw around.
I have every intention of getting Angel GT's fitted once the Bridgestones wear out.. I am too tight to just throw them away!
Incidentally she takes the very same sizes of tyre as the GSX did.
When I get around to it I will do a video clip of it starting up and being revved (a little)..
The tickover is the best part of it...
Nothing at all like a Harley on tickover... More like a V8 car in rythm..
I do regularly visit this forum as its about the best bike forum I have been on.
Keep it up.
S
G'day Speedy. Pleased you dropped in. Be sure to post some footage of the MT01 :onya:
Give it some good tyres ya tight arse, you know it will ride nicer. :cheers:
Angel Gt after 11 000 km (6800 miles). No burnouts, good tyre but it's a bit slippery on cold tarmac.
This thread constantly reminds me I should have bought Pirellis instead of replacing my PR4s with PR4s.
I'm putting a new PR4 GT on the back of mine soon. I'm not changing both when there is 6-7k left on the the front.
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 10 January 2019, 10:14 AM
I'm putting a new PR4 GT on the back of mine soon. I'm not changing both when there is 6-7k left on the the front.
That's exactly the reason I stayed with the PR4. Relatively new front, spiked back and had to replace.
New Angel GT II starting to get available
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires (https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires)
Hi Andre. Have you found any reports on new Angels? My rear soon to be replaced, if it ever wears out, just keeps lasting, looking & feeling good. Wonder if i could mix new model rear with original front. Front is new. Reluctant to change what has been best ever used. Havent seen any mileage reports on Michy5, only one is bmw that looks like getting 40 th ks. That is huge, 1200cc bike.
Grog, they are just starting to arrive at the larger tire dealers. Way to early for road reviews and tests. Heard there will be a comparison test in May. Grip and longevity are claimed to be improved.
Ill just stick another original on, hard to beat brilliant. Diavel has Rossos, expensive, so called super sticky. I cant find them any better than Angels. Both types are far better than my riding needs.Never a grip problem on either bike. Pirelli sure make great bike tyres.
Sorry to double post. Had pirelli car tyres, just were really bad. One flew to pices at 40ks, not 40thou. Paid top dollar because i liked them on bike. They wouldnt replace, bad fitting they said. I fitted them as have done for hundreds of tyres. Next time for car, Hifly, chinese and full set about cost of one pirelli. Are superb tyres, great grip wet or dry, 25 th ks and still look new. Michelin off shoot ive read, not really sure.
Quote from: Andre on Friday, 25 January 2019, 09:05 PM
New Angel GT II starting to get available
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires (https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires)
Please note only "A spec" available. :stir:
What the difference between
A spec and other spec's ?
:cheers:
The wall strength, I haven't busted any more rim's since I started using 'A".
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/pirelli-angel-gt-ii-tires
I hadn't read the full thing
Thanks :cheers:
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 10 January 2019, 10:14 AM
I'm putting a new PR4 GT on the back of mine soon. I'm not changing both when there is 6-7k left on the the front.
Just got back from getting a new PR4 GT on the back. I think I'll be putting Angels on next time though.
Now do I stick with the 180/55 on the rear that handles better on PR4s or go back to the normal size on Angels?
Quote from: Hooli on Sunday, 27 January 2019, 03:28 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 10 January 2019, 10:14 AM
I'm putting a new PR4 GT on the back of mine soon. I'm not changing both when there is 6-7k left on the the front.
Just got back from getting a new PR4 GT on the back. I think I'll be putting Angels on next time though.
Now do I stick with the 180/55 on the rear that handles better on PR4s or go back to the normal size on Angels?
Hooli
You made a big mistake the PR4 GT is obviously tipping in to much for the front tyre, you should research more before rushing in on these things. :stir:
Hooli, keen to know why you run a 180/55 GT. I know the GT has a stiffer sidewall. But l ask if its really needed.
Since getting the 14 in 2014 i've used 3 sets of PR4's and l'm about halfway through a set of Road 5's, all 190/50. Cannot say l have any complaints about the way it handles. That being on my own two up or even two up and loaded.
Have never tried Pirelli but only for the reason that l have no complaints about what im using and not because l have anything against Pirelli. :cheers:
The first 180/55 I ran wasn't a GT & wore out in about 3k, so I think the stronger carcass also stops the rubber getting as hot by preventing it flexing too much.
The reason I prefer the 180 is with a 190 my bike runs wide on the power & wears 'flat spots' on my front tyre so it looks like a thrupeny bit from above. That's completely stopped with the 180 & it just follows it's line properly. This might be due to running XJR Ohlins on the rear which are slightly shorter than GSX shocks, but they were on the bike when I got it & i'm so used to them now I'll not change them unless they fail.
Ok so our bikes are similar but not quite the same because of our rear shocks. If your shocks are shorter that must have an effect on the steering head geometry and make the bike ride differently.
That's my thinking aye, it'll make it slower to turn and more stable. So a 'pointier' tyre counteracts that.
I think there is 8mm difference in profile so what is the difference in shock length. That would be total difference in diameter of tyre so there will be 4mm higher on arse end.
The tread depth on my angel gt's when new the bike is fine
When they are near the end of there life and low on tread you can feel a big difference in the handling.
:cheers:
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Monday, 28 January 2019, 06:51 PM
I think there is 8mm difference in profile so what is the difference in shock length. That would be total difference in diameter of tyre so there will be 4mm higher on arse end.
Shocks are 20mm shorter I think, but that's uncompressed. They are a bit softer than the originals so might sit lower when fitted. I never bothered to measure when parked near a normal 14. Which was silly of me as I once fitted another pair of the same shocks to an ex's 14 so should have done it then.
Seth, not being a smart arse but havent really noticed any difference with Angels thru their life, just fitted new front, couldnt feel much of a change, always good. Maybe im just that old my senses are a bit lacking. Very possible i reckon.
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 30 January 2019, 07:12 PM
Seth, not being a smart arse but havent really noticed any difference with Angels thru their life, just fitted new front, couldnt feel much of a change, always good. Maybe im just that old my senses are a bit lacking. Very possible i reckon.
Possibly, a lot to do with the massive temperature difference between us Grog ?
The difference i feel is only when fully loaded up and the tyres are really worn .
:cheers: