is there a yoshi or akra system that i can keep my centrestand when fitted. k7
Nope, not that I know of with either system fitted, not if you want it on the bike all the time. The only option would be to get a custom stand made grog IMO if such an exhaust was indeed fitted.
as barmy says :onya:
you can fit the centrestand with an akroprovic system to a k2-k4 with a very slight bit of fettling but not the later models. :cheers:
i still refit the centerstand for maintenance but have a lift stick from germany i keep under the seat (will post link soon as i find it)
have a look at this thread (http://gsx1400owners.org/forum_test/index.php?topic=1160.msg12111#msg12111)
my spare standard red/black has the stand as its so useful when away on big trips ect
:cheers:
Why would you want to?
Honest question that as I hate riding 14s with centre stands. The bloody pedal bit gets in the way of my feet unless I have my toes much too far forward & I'm not exactly tall or have huge feet.
I don't have any issues with mine Hooli,
On the plus side it's easy for quick maintenance and keeps the back wheel off the ground whilst not riding.
On the down side I prefer the look without it but that's not enough for me right now👍
Cheers
Red
My K2 retained the centre stand when I fitted the Yoshi system without any modifications. The K7 centre stand mount is slightly different so a Yoshi may not fit although it's worth a try. I'm sure someone on the old org had an Akropovic system and centre stand combination.
i had an akroprovic on my K2 with the center stand but it won't fit on the K6 i did try but i have a braced swingarm so not center stand now anyway.
:cheers:
Lads, on a K7 what's the little stainless flappy bracket for on the centerstand mount ?
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 21 November 2017, 08:49 AM
Lads, on a K7 what's the little stainless flappy bracket for on the centerstand mount ?
That's the bump stop for the centre stand. On the twin can versions, the bump stop is under the LH can, so when they fitted the single can as to the K5 on, they had to re-site the bump stop. And that's where they chose
It may be false but I heard that the centre stand has caused fatalities due to the centre stand 'digging in'. The guys in other thread scraping engine casing would have the stand removed??
Cheers Barmy :onya:
Quote from: Buddynq on Tuesday, 21 November 2017, 12:51 PM
It may be false but I heard that the centre stand has caused fatalities due to the centre stand 'digging in'. The guys in other thread scraping engine casing would have the stand removed??
I know I decked the side sand on mine - I sh#t myself as wasn't expecting it
I am with Red on this..
My bike boots are size 10 1/2 and my centre stand never fouls my feet when riding..
I find it way too useful to be without!
The Abba stand I had recently to remove both wheels was OK but hardly convenient.
I lube my chain (Gear oil) after every ride.
A Honda CB1300 I used to own didnt have a centre stand so I had one retro fitted at my local Honda dealership.
Just too useful to be without in my opinion.
2 more pence worth, I have size 13+ hoofs & I've never had an issue with them encountering the side or main stand - unless that's where I choose to put it.
Quote from: Buddynq on Tuesday, 21 November 2017, 12:51 PM
It may be false but I heard that the centre stand has caused fatalities due to the centre stand 'digging in'. The guys in other thread scraping engine casing would have the stand removed??
You could always take a few thou off it with a grinder to get you over further before contact?
Quote from: Buddynq on Tuesday, 21 November 2017, 12:51 PM
It may be false but I heard that the centre stand has caused fatalities due to the centre stand 'digging in'. The guys in other thread scraping engine casing would have the stand removed??
My 14 never came with a stand, but my bikes that did soon had them removed.
I used to keep them around the shed, and I'd attach a bolt (slightly thinner than stock)
to the stand with a length of wire so I never had to look for it.
Very easy to put the stand in place and slot in a loose bolt.
All the benefit of a centre stand at home but pull the bolt out and remove it to ride.
Now I just use paddock stands instead.
i like having both stands.
Must just be me then.
Looking at this main stand 'Digging' in issue, I think we can say it would certainly have to be a left hander?
And unless its not fitted correctly I just can't see it, studying the picture below, it looks like the foot pegs and engine cases would touch first and I can't picture how the stand would do anything other than 'scrape along?
As for Hooli and his feet, do you work in the Circus :whistling:
Thoughts?
Love the Red sprocket errr Red.
Did you know you can get a Red chain ?
Yes seriously..
Quote from: Red Biker on Tuesday, 21 November 2017, 11:15 PM
As for Hooli and his feet, do you work in the Circus :whistling:
Ahem Ted... :thumbs_down:
Is it the first size of the fin? :whistling:
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 02:30 AM
Love the Red sprocket errr Red.
Did you know you can get a Red chain ?
Yes seriously..
Hi speedy, i did look at that but didn't want to go mad with the Red :hat:
Watch this space re Red wheels just like these
Red
Quote from: Blubber on Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 03:10 AM
Quote from: Red Biker on Tuesday, 21 November 2017, 11:15 PM
As for Hooli and his feet, do you work in the Circus :whistling:
Ahem Ted... :thumbs_down:
Japanese size 32 Blubber!
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King!
Quote from: Blubber on Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 03:10 AM
Quote from: Red Biker on Tuesday, 21 November 2017, 11:15 PM
As for Hooli and his feet, do you work in the Circus :whistling:
Ahem Ted... :thumbs_down:
I've got a 48 in mine Blubber, but they are a snug fit.
Size 10.5 UK feet here, so dunno what it is. I like to have my toes on the pegs & when I do my heel always hits the centre stand.
Quote from: Hooli on Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 06:00 AM
Size 10.5 UK feet here, so dunno what it is. I like to have my toes on the pegs & when I do my heel always hits the centre stand.
Was just about to say the exact same thing Hooli.
...... instructor told us all "don't ride paddlefoot"
So we're saying that lot up there don't sit on their bikes properly?
I'll vote for that :whistling:
I'd have to say I ride with the centre of the boot on the peg, more comfortable that way for long legs. I do sometimes ride with the toe of the boot in the pegs, but only when I've got lots of tight twisties ahead n get sick of dragging me foot.
So yeah, paddlefoot maybe, but couldn't ride any other way for long.
Red wheels work :)
I cant have the centre-stand on mine due to full Akra system - which is a shame as I too really like having a centre-stand for chain cleaning/lubrication.
However, I'd rather have the Akra fitted than the centre-stand if it came to a choice !
Quote from: Snapey on Tuesday, 21 November 2017, 07:24 AM
My K2 retained the centre stand when I fitted the Yoshi system without any modifications. The K7 centre stand mount is slightly different so a Yoshi may not fit although it's worth a try. I'm sure someone on the old org had an Akropovic system and centre stand combination.
You are right Pete, they did and it was "Malc" - he custom made a centre stand to fit out of box section steel.
centrestand never worried my foot, no toes on pegs for me. they are footpegs not toe pegs. yes, few scrapes on boots, nothing to worry me. guess i corner slower than you blokes. were all different, makes this forum what it is. all good.
Couple of questions for all the tipy toe riders! don't you get cramp in your calves?
And Unless you are wearing AliBarba style footwear how do you change gear? Or probably more importantly jump on the brake!!😀
#justsayin
My feet move around to keep comfy but when trying to corner quick (I can't compared to a lot on here & the old org) I move them back as I don't like my toes dragging.
Gears/brakes I know when I'll need them so it's no issue. With sudden braking you want a smooth build up of pressure anyway and start with the front to settle the bike so no issue there either.
Quote from: Red Biker on Wednesday, 22 November 2017, 07:58 PM
Couple of questions for all the tipy toe riders! don't you get cramp in your calves?
And Unless you are wearing AliBarba style footwear how do you change gear? Or probably more importantly jump on the brake!!😀
#justsayin
Lol Red..
Without the balls of my feet on the pegs, the rubbery strappy bit between my toes chafed me if my jandals touch the road.
:jack:
Take 'em off then Col! The bike is a naked so why not feet too ?
To be fair,by way of relief I drop my feet forward so my heel catches on the foot peg. Or even rest the top of my boot on the foot peg and lean forward as This seems to let the blood flow through again And you feel a bit like Superman 👍
Hi Grog,
You could always change out your headers for single skinned headers Delkevic or Black Widow, it will free the engine up a bit and you can keep your centre stand.
Cheers,
Rick
Hi Rick,
Whilst you are on! Do you have to change the collector as well to get the benefit?
Thanks in Advance
Red
Quote from: Red Biker on Thursday, 23 November 2017, 10:59 PM
Hi Rick,
Whilst you are on! Do you have to change the collector as well to get the benefit?
Thanks in Advance
Red
I'll answer on that one Nigel in case Rick has logged off. No, as there are no restrictions in the collector(s) either the single exit or twin exit. On the single can models, the restrictor was always in the (standard) link pipe.
So you could fit Black Widow headers and get the benefit. A mod like that would gain you an extra 5bhp or so roughly, but you may need to get your 14 re-dyno'd if you have a Power Commander, as it would run a little weaker due to the slightly larger internal bore
Hi Dave,
Thanks for chipping in :onya:
Good news for me as 4-1 collectors are about as prevelent as freinds of Grace Mugabe at the moment!!
I have a PCIII sitting around but didn't figure it was worth fitting until I'd done the headers. As the upgrades are single skin I assume they'll get hotter than the oem's? You probably know why I ask :whistling:
Cheers
Nigel
Yep I sure do!!!
Yes they will get hotter Nigel, if left in stainless, then they brown off quite quickly the same as Akra headers - so not sure how a ceramic coating might get on - you'd probably know better than I.
You could always fit the stainless headers off a K5 -> instead, as whilst they are double skinned, they are slightly larger bore inside, so will release a few ponies, but not quite as much as the single skinned ones.
Thanks Dave, so as mine is K5 the upgrade to Black Widow is less of an impact?
Nigel
Yes indeed. You might get 1-2 bhp more, but nothing much more as the standard stainless headers are only slightly smaller bore than the Black Widow ones. You get more of an impact if you have the earlier chrome headers, as they have less of an inner diameter than the later stainless ones.
So really Nigel, IMO, no real gain for the outlay in all honesty if you have stainless headers already
Good stuff thanks Dave, case closed on the Headers👍