What kind of top cases / racks you have on your bike? As 14 is such a beautiful bike I don't like putting Givi rack (the looong one) on it, instead I have seen racks that you can directly fix on the grab rail.
Share you photos of your bikes with various racks, if there are even that many available!
PS. i have the soft Givi side bags, but as it turns out they are not good when it is raining. You get mix of sand/water/whatever between the bike and bags and that mixture is great for grinding, for example... :facepalm:
heres NELLY 1656 miles in 4 days in damp wet scotland/nothing got wet atall this kit is great,find it buy it you wont go wrong :onya:
The advantage (or disadvantage) of the Givi rack over the Renntec "grab rail" type rack is that it can take a heavier load (up to 10Kg excl any top box weight), also it does not need a top plate in order to fit a top box. The Renntec rack is only recommended for up to 6Kg incl any box weight. Now I know people exceed these weight recommendations, but I'm only stating what the manufacturers say.
So it really depends on what you want to carry on any rack you may fit....
I agree the Renntec ones look better, but the Givi one is more versatile IMO
Best side cases - I have the Givi E41 Keyless and they are absolutely brilliant. I'll post up pictures of them later when I'm on my OC and not on my iPad
Went around the South Island with the wife for a month in 2015. This is our rig.
Like Barmy says Givi E41 panniers are great.
Older Givi 46 litre topbox.
I rarely take the topbox off as its so handy.
Very strangly, my Rocket came with those instead of leather... Flipping wierd if you ask me... Leather to follow.
Mine came with a mounting plate / box that just mounts to the grab rail.
I had doubts about its strength but I've never had any problems with when I've used it (not that often to be honest) but I think the last owner used it a bit.
Small flat plate mounts to the grab rail.
The mounting plate fits to that with 3 quick release clips.
The box locks to that with the key.
Haven't go many pics of it but..
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... and just the plate with the adapter bit removed (takes seconds).
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Has to be the Givi for me
Nice looking bikes you got there. :smitten:
Thanks Barmy for info in regards loading capacity. I suppose I go with the Givi rack, seems more sturdy. To conclude all the parts I need (in case Givi) it would then be:
-Rack https://www.louis.eu/artikel/givi-monorack-topcase-carrier-fuer-suzuki-gsx-1400/10023575?filter_bike_id=1390&filter_article_number=10023572&list=344775085 (https://www.louis.eu/artikel/givi-monorack-topcase-carrier-fuer-suzuki-gsx-1400/10023575?filter_bike_id=1390&filter_article_number=10023572&list=344775085)
-Mounting plate, which is sold separately. This you need to mount on the rack in order to mount the case, right? There are various one but would be the one I want then: https://www.louis.eu/artikel/monorack-fitting-plate/10023576?filter_article_number=10023577 (https://www.louis.eu/artikel/monorack-fitting-plate/10023576?filter_article_number=10023577)
-Case it self. Monokey is more of a real case where as monolock is more of a scooter model, according to interweb. :coffeescreen: I guess it is matter of preference when it comes to case. Big enough to fit two helmet though.
Tony, do you have any idea of the maker for your grab rail type rack? Is it Renntec? Like the simplicity of that one. Also, can you fit only specific cases on it?
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 12 July 2017, 08:36 AM
The advantage (or disadvantage) of the Givi rack over the Renntec "grab rail" type rack is that it can take a heavier load (up to 10Kg excl any top box weight), also it does not need a top plate in order to fit a top box. The Renntec rack is only recommended for up to 6Kg incl any box weight. Now I know people exceed these weight recommendations, but I'm only stating what the manufacturers say.
So it really depends on what you want to carry on any rack you may fit....
I agree the Renntec ones look better, but the Givi one is more versatile IMO
Best side cases - I have the Givi E41 Keyless and they are absolutely brilliant. I'll post up pictures of them later when I'm on my OC and not on my iPad
Photos of mine with the E41 Keyless panniers and E52 Top Box fitted on the beach at Duncannon, Eire
smart looking there Sir. just wondering though... how long it took to return the shine on your bike after the "offroad" ride on the beach? :lol:
I have the Givi one.
Four bolts, ten minute job to take it off
or vice versa.
Quote from: DTTW on Thursday, 13 July 2017, 03:51 PM
smart looking there Sir. just wondering though... how long it took to return the shine on your bike after the "offroad" ride on the beach? :lol:
Haha - when we rode on the beach that was the first day on last year's Wild Atlantic Way - by the end of the week and 1500 miles later, it looked like the pictures below. It took me 10 days to strip it down and clean it, and polish every bit of alloy!!!
Looks much better like that Barmy :D
As for luggage, Givi E41s & a V46 topbox do everything I want. Watch the topbox though as eventually the point on the catch where it locks to the top plate breaks off & then the topbox will make a bid for freedom as you're riding down the road. I drilled two holes through it & bolted it to the rack, it doesn't go anywhere now. Another bonus of bolting it on, the box is now rock solid & the bars don't shake if you let go. They always did with the box attached the 'correct' way & rattling a bit.
Can you still get the Givi pannier racks though? I thought they'd stopped doing them.
They have - only available second hand now and pretty rare to see up for sale
What model is your topbox Dave. Looks good on the trumpet. :onya:
It's the Givi Trekker 52L TRK52N. Very happy with it, as whilst it's no bigger than the E52 I had on my 14, the more upright shape makes the space more useable. Will hold 2 full face lids ok.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIVI-TREKKER-CASE-52L-TOP-BOX-TRK52N-TOP-CASE-GIVI-LUGGAGE-PANNIER-ALUMINIUM-52L-/201964506044?epid=646736725&hash=item2f0605cbbc:m:mwBG5WJCl_wP8U1he68HbKQ
Yes the shape was what caught my eye. Looks like very usable space. Thanks for the link. :onya:
Haha - when we rode on the beach that was the first day on last year's Wild Atlantic Way - by the end of the week and 1500 miles later, it looked like the pictures below. It took me 10 days to strip it down and clean it, and polish every bit of alloy!!!
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Sounds lots of fun!
So, drive it for 7 days, make it pretty again in 10 days, sounds reasonable, I guess? :whistling:
Quote from: DTTW on Friday, 14 July 2017, 06:31 PM
Haha - when we rode on the beach that was the first day on last year's Wild Atlantic Way - by the end of the week and 1500 miles later, it looked like the pictures below. It took me 10 days to strip it down and clean it, and polish every bit of alloy!!!
Sounds lots of fun!
So, drive it for 7 days, make it pretty again in 10 days, sounds reasonable, I guess? :whistling:
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NOPE! Sold it and bought a Triumph Explorer! Drive for 7 days, spend 30 minutes with a jet wash to make it clean again. Sorted :happy1: :onya: :boogie:
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Saturday, 15 July 2017, 02:11 AM
Quote from: DTTW on Friday, 14 July 2017, 06:31 PM
Haha - when we rode on the beach that was the first day on last year's Wild Atlantic Way - by the end of the week and 1500 miles later, it looked like the pictures below. It took me 10 days to strip it down and clean it, and polish every bit of alloy!!!
Sounds lots of fun!
So, drive it for 7 days, make it pretty again in 10 days, sounds reasonable, I guess? :whistling:
NOPE! Sold it and bought a Triumph Explorer! Drive for 7 days, spend 30 minutes with a jet wash to make it clean again. Sorted :happy1: :onya: :boogie:
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Ouch! Hit below the belt right there! :lol:
Quote from: DTTW on Thursday, 13 July 2017, 03:43 AM
Tony, do you have any idea of the maker for your grab rail type rack? Is it Renntec? Like the simplicity of that one. Also, can you fit only specific cases on it?
I'm not very informed about luggage.
I just had a look at mine.
The box says "KAPPA 52. MONOKEY"
The rack that bolts to the bike says "SW-MOTECH"
The adapter between the two has no markings.
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Saturday, 15 July 2017, 04:04 PM
Quote from: DTTW on Thursday, 13 July 2017, 03:43 AM
Tony, do you have any idea of the maker for your grab rail type rack? Is it Renntec? Like the simplicity of that one. Also, can you fit only specific cases on it?
I'm not very informed about luggage.
I just had a look at mine.
The box says "KAPPA 52. MONOKEY"
The rack that bolts to the bike says "SW-MOTECH"
The adapter between the two has no markings.
I've done some internet research as we don't have any bigger motorcycle / accessory shop close by to consult and seems that SW-MOTECH rack will fit with Kappa/Givi other brand boxes, just need to have the correct adapter in between. Thanks for the info though :onya:
Just check that you can get the adapter still - I recall reading on another forum that they have stopped supplying some of the adaptors
I ordered the renntec sport rack for my 14 the rack had been terribly made I talked to the supplier who were very helpful I sent pics which were passed onto renntec so they agreed and sent me another rack direct, better but still poor quality just to say after emailing mike stevens from renntec and having the emails that asked for renntecs opinion on there quality ignored. I would never have anything else to do with renntec badly made unsafe racks. I say that due to having nothing back diagreeing with there quality having seen there CV of sorts they put on the internet telling you how good they are to customers quality of product etc.
Tony, do you have any idea of the maker for your grab rail type rack? Is it Renntec? Like the simplicity of that one. Also, can you fit only specific cases on it?
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I'm not very informed about luggage.
I just had a look at mine.
The box says "KAPPA 52. MONOKEY"
The rack that bolts to the bike says "SW-MOTECH"
The adapter between the two has no markings.
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Quote from: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 12 July 2017, 08:36 AM
The advantage (or disadvantage) of the Givi rack over the Renntec "grab rail" type rack is that it can take a heavier load (up to 10Kg excl any top box weight), also it does not need a top plate in order to fit a top box. The Renntec rack is only recommended for up to 6Kg incl any box weight. Now I know people exceed these weight recommendations, but I'm only stating what the manufacturers say.
So it really depends on what you want to carry on any rack you may fit....
I agree the Renntec ones look better, but the Givi one is more versatile IMO
Best side cases - I have the Givi E41 Keyless and they are absolutely brilliant. I'll post up pictures of them later when I'm on my OC and not on my iPad