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Title: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: Sparky337 on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 10:01 AM
Hi everyone,
Just joined the form & was after some advice.
I've recently purchased a K3 model beautiful too :smitten:
I was after a gear position indicator so purchased one but this has the later K4 onwards 6 pin plug!
Can this be adapted to suit my earlier 4 pin ?
The only other makes I can find are £99 GBP !
Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative not magnet type I could purchase
anywhere ?
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: Kiwifruit on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 01:05 PM
Hi sparky. Pleased you found us.
Im sure someone will be along soon to answer your question.
In the meantime welcome.....fron NZ
:cheers:
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: gsxbarmy on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 03:01 PM
Hi Sparky - what make gear position indicator did you purchase? I haven't heard of this issue before, most who fit gear position indicators here either have the conversion done to their clocks by Thommohawk or fit the GiPro gear indicator (or aTre with gear indicator), which fit to common plugs/wires across the whole model range.

Can you provide a link or details of what it is you purchased?

(here's the Thommohawk conversion - neat huh)

CjwHgQwt3R4
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: Mick_J on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 04:18 PM
Welcome to the forum Sparky  :onya:
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: Blubber on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 05:50 PM
Welcome  :hat:
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: Notty on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 06:16 PM
Welcome  :smile2:
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: Sparky337 on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 07:31 PM
Hi,
This the one I purchased
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272580540251
I now see its listed for 2004 onwards  :notworthy:

The difference is the ( K3has 4 pin plug ) ( K4 has 6 pin plug)
Both have the dealer mode wires  but the K4 also has a 12volt feed wire (and a 7.5 volt feed that's not  used ?)  After connecting the dealer mode wires , I have tried supplying the 12 volt feed the the plug from the battery but this doesn't work . It just gives a random flashing display of gears 1&2.
I'm not sure if the ECU is different on on a K4 or just the plug arrangements ( and the is a wire there I could use ?

I have seen the The tomo conversion and it is very trick 👍
I was just just after a quick plug n play tho :boogie2:
Although it's looking like I might have to get a tomo eventually.
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: northern on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 08:21 PM
I'm confused.
I build my gear position indicator myself, but as I understand, all factory made indicators should be connected inline of gear-position sensor and ECU. Other words, there should be 2 connectors instead of 1, like your e-bay item looks.

Am I wrong?  :whatever:
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: gsxbarmy on Saturday, 29 April 2017, 10:39 PM
Quote from: northern on Saturday, 29 April  2017, 08:21 PM
I'm confused.
I build my gear position indicator myself, but as I understand, all factory made indicators should be connected inline of gear-position sensor and ECU. Other words, there should be 2 connectors instead of 1, like your e-bay item looks.

Am I wrong?  :whatever:

Don't think so Northern - never seen one that connects into the ECU at all.

Sparky - it wouldn't work on a K4 either. Basically the ECU changed with the K5 model onwards K2-K4 were all the same, so they have built this gear indicator for the later (FE) models. Earlier K2-K4 models had a single plug ECU, K5 onwards have dual plug ECU's

I'm really not sure if that can be adapted to work with your machine. If you can return it, I would, then either get a Thommo conversion or a GiPro gear indicator (which plugs across the white plug behind the LH side panel.
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: Sparky337 on Sunday, 30 April 2017, 12:21 AM
Thanks guys for all your comments  :coffeescreen:
I think I will return this  :jack:
Bring on the tomo conversion  :boogie:
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: froudy on Sunday, 30 April 2017, 07:07 AM
I wish I'd had the Tommo full conversion done, but just went for blue LED's as I had a GiPro gear position indicator already fitted.
Rebuilt the bike back in Jan this year and the GiPro started causing FI warning light to show, so had to bin it :furious:
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: grog on Sunday, 30 April 2017, 07:22 PM
never had a prob with gipro, perfect. i like the blue readout. what does the thommo conversion do?
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: KiwiCol on Sunday, 30 April 2017, 07:26 PM
LED's on the rev counter Grog, 1 through 6 for the gear position & change backlight to different colour / brightness if you want.
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: gsxbarmy on Monday, 01 May 2017, 03:27 AM
Quote from: grog on Sunday, 30 April  2017, 07:22 PM
never had a prob with gipro, perfect. i like the blue readout. what does the thommo conversion do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjwHgQwt3R4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 03 May 2017, 04:40 PM
:welcome: sparky !!!!
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 03 May 2017, 07:01 PM
thanks Barmy, i know now. i still prefer my gipro, just gear number comes up. a great invention, not new, my 1973 gt750 had as standard. 1974 actually, wasnt on K model, L model did. thanks for video. 
Title: Re: K3 Gear position indicator
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 03 May 2017, 09:53 PM
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 03 May  2017, 07:01 PM
thanks Barmy, i know now. i still prefer my gipro, just gear number comes up. a great invention, not new, my 1973 gt750 had as standard. 1974 actually, wasnt on K model, L model did. thanks for video.

No worries Grog - I preferred my GiPro as well, easy to read number - sorted!