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Started by Eric GSX1400K3, Thursday, 20 November 2025, 12:29 PM

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Hooli

That'd make sense with a sticky piston not sliding as well as it should then. There's a mod on here somewhere with a Busa part to fit a rubber boot over the slave & solve the problem for good.

Tally

I avoid clunking into 1st gear by holding the clutch in for a count of ten, this allows the clutch plates to free up and then 1st gear goes in with a click. ( after letting the revs return to idle from cold start obviously.)Anybody else do this??.

Hooli

To be honest 90% of the time mine was started in gear anyway. I always parked it up in gear as it's a little more secure if knocked or on a slight slope. The only exception was in the garage where I'd wheel it in backwards for a more sensible parking position.

grog

Tally, never tried but i will.

Eric GSX1400K3

Quote from: Tally on Thursday, 27 November  2025, 01:05 AMI avoid clunking into 1st gear by holding the clutch in for a count of ten, this allows the clutch plates to free up and then 1st gear goes in with a click. ( after letting the revs return to idle from cold start obviously.)Anybody else do this??.

yeah that is supposed to overcome stiction and separate the plate stack. Suzuki clutch steel plates are dimpled to retain more oil, plus the clutch sits in an oil bath.

The 10sec count is common practice with the dry sump/wet clutch BMWs, as oil gets pumped into the stack only when the engine is running.

I tried it with the 1402 but made no difference. Held it for a count of 10, then dropped it into 1st. Bike lurches fwd and its a big clunk. Not healthy for the gear engagement dogs. Away this weekend, but will strip the clutch slave down, change fluid and go from there at the next opportunity.

I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

grog

Dont think ive ever owned jap bike that didnt clunk into 1st. Ducati, English etc, cant remember.Try a Harley, some of them scare me, almost think their fine handling frame could get damaged. 😂

Hooli

I find it odd, some days bikes drop into gear smoothly yet another it's an almighty bang. Doesn't seem to be any logic to it either. Just life with wet clutches I guess.

grog

Much better than dry clutch i built for mates Jawa. It lasted 30 ks then smoked up, scary. Master mechanic me, it was actually a wet clutch. Hard to be perfect all the time🤪

Eric GSX1400K3

Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 27 November  2025, 06:43 PMI find it odd, some days bikes drop into gear smoothly yet another it's an almighty bang. Doesn't seem to be any logic to it either. Just life with wet clutches I guess.
exactly, same here, and it doesn't seem to matter whether its hot or cold engine.
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

Barbastro K6

Does the name Bilbos have any relationship with Bilbao- Spain?

grog

No Mate, we named it from Lord Of The Rings, such a long story to fix it👍

Mick_J

Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 02 December  2025, 05:09 PMNo Mate, we named it from Lord Of The Rings, such a long story to fix it👍

I think that is code for him being very short with big hairy feet.  :whistling:  :lol:
Keep the rubber side down.          Mick

Eric GSX1400K3

Tend to get the toe hair curled around the gearshift sometimes, but I digress....
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

KiwiCol

Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Wednesday, 03 December  2025, 10:59 AMTend to get the toe hair curled around the gearshift sometimes, but I digress....

Digress as far as putting some Brylcreem in said hair & comb backwards & hey presto, no more tangles in the gear shift!     God, remember that stuff?   Glad that's not still a thing.
😎  Always looking for the next corner.  😎

Eric GSX1400K3

Well, tell that to the guy at our gym that seems to swim in the stuff
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

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