Cool Experts Race Oil Cooler Installation Issues...... Arrrgh

Started by watgra, Friday, 16 May 2025, 06:02 PM

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grog

Screw in at our temps, lowest is around 6, highest over 40. Ive pushed hard in high ambients, never seen it show over 80. Ive checked with laser thermometer, its fairly accurate, around 10 below motor temp. None of that will turn fan on. Air/oil cooling is a wonderful invention.Others are missing out.

watgra

Quote from: GSXKING on Saturday, 17 May  2025, 12:51 PMHi Grae
My two cents worth I had an oil cooler fail and was fortunate enough to get one from a dealer who'd changed it out for an aftermarket one.
In 24 years of ownership living in South East Queensland and travelling in the hottest 🥵🥵of summers I've never heard my fan go on. 😎
thanks, good to know!

watgra

Quote from: grog on Saturday, 17 May  2025, 08:26 PMScrew in at our temps, lowest is around 6, highest over 40. Ive pushed hard in high ambients, never seen it show over 80. Ive checked with laser thermometer, its fairly accurate, around 10 below motor temp. None of that will turn fan on. Air/oil cooling is a wonderful invention.Others are missing out.
thanks Grog, Interesting that it sounds like the fan rarely or never comes on, and may not be needed.  cheers G

watgra

Quote from: GSXKING on Saturday, 17 May  2025, 12:51 PMHi Grae
My two cents worth I had an oil cooler fail and was fortunate enough to get one from a dealer who'd changed it out for an aftermarket one.
In 24 years of ownership living in South East Queensland and travelling in the hottest 🥵🥵of summers I've never heard my fan go on. 😎
thanks Chris, i'll look into after market options or maybe modifying the existing fan mount. Lots of suggestions that the fan is maybe not required as well.  Cheers G

watgra

Thanks again for all your replies everyone.   Sounds like modifying the fan mount, or not having the fan at all, and modifying the grommets to allow the cooler to fit are the takeouts here.  Ill also look into a cut out in the top mount for better air flow to the head as suggested.  Although support from Cool Ex to date has been minimal, I will be calling them again on Monday to follow up previous inquiries and try and get photos, diagrams and more detail of how they think this cooler should be installed too. I'll also ensure they are committed to swapping out the race cooler for the standard one if it comes to that.  Hope not.  Cheers G

watgra

Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Saturday, 17 May  2025, 03:00 PMAgree with that, here in WA, hottest days and "spirited" riding, fan does not come on, std cooler (22yo).  I'd do the single grommet idea.  Is there any way to modify the bottom lugs? Surely a welding shop could TIG weld two matching brackets onto these for you?  Cooler looks trick in my opinion.
Thanks Eric, may go that way.  Love the cooler, hate the hassels.  Cheers G

watgra

Quote from: grog on Saturday, 17 May  2025, 04:17 PMGraeme, just had another look.What if you cut bracket off old cooler, measured and cut for locating on top of new cooler bracket for correct distance.Glue it on with 24 hr Araldite or drill and bolt together🤷
Thanks Grog.  Yep, good idea.  Also, maybe Cool Ex could not make an extension up in the same alloy and send it over, given theirs is too short. Cheers G

Barbastro K6

Maybe by welding a washer at the end I would have the holding point OK

Hooli

I'll disagree with the others on the fan, it is needed occasionally. I had a seized fan at one point that I didn't know about till crossing a Swiss city in 35-40c heat the engine was feeling horribly rough & tight, along with a hot/burning oil smell. Once I got into moving traffic again ( it was too congested to filter & I don't think the Swiss like you doing so ) it was all good.

watgra

Quote from: Hooli on Monday, 19 May  2025, 08:16 PMI'll disagree with the others on the fan, it is needed occasionally. I had a seized fan at one point that I didn't know about till crossing a Swiss city in 35-40c heat the engine was feeling horribly rough & tight, along with a hot/burning oil smell. Once I got into moving traffic again ( it was too congested to filter & I don't think the Swiss like you doing so ) it was all good.
Thanks Hooli, yeah I think keeping the fan makes sense (esp in hot climates / traffic). Cheers G

watgra

Hey all, just an update on this.   Have decided that I want to keep the fan and Coolex have agreed to swap the cooler for a standard one. They have them on the shelf apparently. I have requested the unpainted one if they have one (not sure).  I did want to keep the race cooler if it was possible, but there just is too much work modifying the bike for the fan and risk squeezing it in with little or no grommets in place.  Anyway, thanks again for your input and Ill keep you posted on where this ends up.
Cheers Grae

grog


Hooli

Decent customer service there to resolve your issues then.

watgra

Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 20 May  2025, 06:36 PMDecent customer service there to resolve your issues then.
Yeah, initial contact was like a brick wall, but once I found (stumbled across) the right person, I got some traction.   Ill keep everyone posted about how the actual swap ends up going (beyond the email commitment that I have to date).  Cheers

watgra

Hey all, just to keep you updated, after many phone calls and emails back and forth over the last few weeks, I have finally received a replacement 'standard' oil cooler from Coolex.   The product itself looks good and is significantly more robust than the Suzuki original. (see photo)   All the mountings and fittings appear to be in the right place.    It looks like it should fit straight in including the fan etc.   I'll get on to it on the weekend, let you know how I go, and post a few photos of the outcome.   Cheers Grae

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