I've heard some more bollox today

[Mick_J]

When my bike got stuffed it was collected by Copart who do most insurance jobs for bikes.  They apparently bent my side stand lost one of my horns and swiped the rubber cover of my optimate flying lead for which they compensated me.  However I got a new stand and it was exactly the  same so it must be the lug on the frame.  Contacted Copart again and they sent me a reply telling me that side stands were actually designed to bend so that the frame was protected and therefore it cannot be the frame lug that is bent, unless I can prove otherwise.  I thought that's BOLLOX, side stands are not sacrificial parts, most bikes can be lifted onto their side stand without issue.

So I'm appealing to anyone near me to help me measure their bike against mine, side by side.  I need to prove to these fuckwits that it's a problem they have caused and that compo is due.  These are the pictures I sent to them but they cannot see any problems with them.  Notty has kindly helped but I need a bike without lowered suspension to fully show the angle of dangle when on the side stand.
1st pic shows the side stand when they collected the bike.
2nd pic shoes the stand when they delivered it back to me and if i lift the peg the stand will lock into the hollow under the foot peg.

[KiwiCol]

Bloody hell!  How the hell did they bend that side stand!!    Strapping it down on the back of a truck??    What where they thinking, they were gonna be doing 1000mph on the way back?  That's bloody ridiculous.   If they could cold bend a stand like that, then it should bend back - maybe . . .   They must of cranked tonnes of pressure onto it to bend it like that.  Prob buggered other parts of the frame as well.

[GSXKING]

I'd have to agree 😳 I've seen a tree fall on a bike and sidestand never moved.
Sounds like they're not well educated in tying down bikes.
Most tow truck companies in Brisbane have front wheel clamping devices and don't rely on sidestand.
I do remember KiwiFruit posting a pic recently of tie down on a ferry that utilised sidestand 🫣

[Kiwifruit]

That's right Col I was told to always use sidestand, if on centre stand and it goes forward over the centre stand there is little or no tension on the tie downs. Tying down on the ferry the first tie down I put on is the left front which you don't get much out of as it's only pressuring the side stand. Next is right front. Pull the right handlebar till the bike is vertical or close to it, that's quite a bit of tension holding the bike without really cranking it down, then the left and right rear tie downs which I pull down with my foot in the slack of the loose end. I Don't use ratchet tie downs because I've seen guys crank them down what I think is way too tight. I cable tie my front brake on tight enough to know the brake is on but when i truly squeeze the lever you just take the tie off.
There is tension on the sidestand for sure and I reckon an overzealous or hamfisted operator could easily damage the sidestand or it's mount.
ps. Take notice of the guy next to you tying their bike down, some have no idea. I've helped others tie down (to protect my bike) then invited them to check mine for their piece of mind.
Got a bit off topic sorry Mick but thought it might be of interest to some.

[Dwain Dibley]

I just went and took these pics for you.

One with me holding the stand down so you can see shape, angle etc.

Hope it helps.   

D.D.

[Mick_J]

Thanks for all your input but it's not the stand that's bent (unless the one I bought is bent exactly the same), it's the frame lug it's bolted to, that's why I'm chasing Copart for bending the frame, not the stand although it has suffered a bit at the bolt hole for which I have been compensated for.
Thanks for the picture Dwain, I might use that as part of my evidence.

[Dwain Dibley]

You're welcome, i see what you mean now, and you can prove your stand is straight but not where it should be, hence the frame/bracket must be out/damaged.

D.D.

[SomersetViking]

You are welcome to come round and measure or photograph any part of my bike if it's of use (K2) as I'm just up the road from you (Clevedon)
Cheers
Nick

[Mick_J]

That's great, I've sent you a PM.