Bike Smoking when coming off revs, Rider behind said smells very rich after new

[Eric GSX1400K3]

Have you checked oil level? Sometimes an overfilled engine will smoke

[Hooli]

Typical low mileage bike tbh. Everything has gone hard & fails when subjected to use. My 14 was the same when I got it at 7 years old & just 7.5k on it.

If you take the forks out & do the seals, I'd drop the yokes too. Suzuki factory workers appear to be allergic to grease so a repacking will help. That's if the bottom one isn't rusty from condensation inside the frame. Talking of which, if you're feeling brave the swingarm bearings will probably need wiping clean & more grease too. The LH one always gets rust coloured discolouration in the grease from the condensation running to the side when the bike is on the side stand. While the swingarm is out, grease the shock pivots top & bottom....

That should keep you busy till it's warm enough to enjoy riding.

[Andre]

For such a low mls bike and how clean it was I am just finding one thing after another atm and feel I have been taken for a ride pardon the pun for what I paid for it!!

Common erroneous assumption that (Old!) low mileage bikes have fewer problems than their higher mileage compatriots. Sitting around too much is not only detrimental to human health, but also to bikes (etc.). Leaky SEALS are a very common problem in very low mileage oldies.

EDIT:  The gunk mineral oil leaves behind helps to seal the seals. Synthetic  oil cleans all the gunk out; that's the crux when changing from mineral to  synthetic. It gets rid of the  plugs that keeps the leaks at bay. The loosened gunk , when getting between the clutch plates, makes the clutch slip.

Also don't use any engine oil cleaner! I would never use that anyhow in a 14. Full synthetic oil is a much better, howbeit more expensive, choice to have a clean the engine.

I suggest to only use mineral oil in your engine. NO hydro-crack or synthetic. That's from a guy that only runs true fully synthetic in his 14 

[Xdiavel]

For such a low mls bike and how clean it was I am just finding one thing after another atm and feel I have been taken for a ride pardon the pun for what I paid for it!!

Common erroneous assumption that (Old!) low mileage bikes have fewer problems than their higher mileage compatriots. Sitting around too much is not only detrimental to human health, but also to bikes (etc.). Leaky SEALS are a very common problem in very low mileage oldies.

EDIT:  The gunk mineral oil leaves behind helps to seal the seals. Synthetic  oil cleans all the gunk out; that's the crux when changing from mineral to  synthetic. It gets rid of the  plugs that keeps the leaks at bay. The loosened gunk , when getting between the clutch plates, makes the clutch slip.

Also don't use any engine oil cleaner! I would never use that anyhow in a 14. Full synthetic oil is a much better, howbeit more expensive, choice to have a clean the engine.

I suggest to only use mineral oil in your engine. NO hydro-crack or synthetic. That's from a guy that only runs true fully synthetic in his 14 

I gave this a full service a month or so ago and used Semi synthetic so all should be good there but as you say I have no idea what previous owners had done to it.

So far I have fitted a full exhaust system, LED bulb change, Polished both engine cases and front forks, Changed rear light, Balanced the throttle bodies, Full service with plugs, polished headlight brackets, Painted the centre stand and side stand, Changed clocks to custom gear change and new surround. Renthol bars.   And all this since November lol I have lived in the garage! and now finding this smoke issue/fork issue/Brake issue  is to say the least getting right on my last nerve. I had 04/05 R1/Fireblades and never had one issue.

I have enjoyed most of it but this smoke issue could brake me lol I just prey that these seals work.

[Eric GSX1400K3]

Re fork seals, i can recommend genuine ones. I had one set of All Balls Racing that failed again in about 6 months after putting them in.   Cheaper aint better

[grog]

Diavel, would be testing me out. Mines always been the opposite, so good. I once had a Norton Commando, classic bikes they say. Mine was classic crap, every time i fixed something it raised more probs. My worst bike by miles.

[Hooli]

Re fork seals, i can recommend genuine ones. I had one set of All Balls Racing that failed again in about 6 months after putting them in.   Cheaper aint better

I've never had any make of fork seals except genuine last in these bikes.

[grog]

Suzuki OEM are NOK brand. Sometimes 1/2 the price. But yeah, waste of time fitting others.

[Xdiavel]

Think I am just annoyed really as got it looking close to brand new since winter started and then find more 
I think once this weekends work is done ie the seals, Rear brake and put back together I will feel better about it. That will just leave the fork seals to do which I have lined up with a mate as he has done a lot on Bandits.

I took it for a test ride last weekend to check if it is still smoking and must say it still shocks me how smooth She is    My other bike is an x-diavel 1262 L-twin and that feels like a shaking tractor compared to the GSX.

[Hooli]

Suzuki OEM are NOK brand. Sometimes 1/2 the price. But yeah, waste of time fitting others.

Handy to know, thanks.

[seth]

I've just done a set of forks for a friend (new bushes and oil) he also wanted fork seals but the parten ones that came with the kit only had a single seal fork seal unlike the double seal on suzuki ones (refitted his original seals as nothing wrong with them) pyramid parts kit .

[Xdiavel]

Well, terrible weekend, yes I lost a dowel pin and thought it dropped Into the cylinder  but had to buy a borescope and found it in an oil chamber deep down and grabbed it with a magnet thank god!

The other bad part is all 4 pistons are wet on top especially by the indents on the pistons that look like holes. I have not yet changed the seals so not sure if still the same after, very nervous now. How do I upload pictures please.  Normally it's just an attachment but this seems a bit overly complicated. Spark plugs are fine and not wet.

*edit looking more closely the oil pools are at the indent side which is the valve side, so could potentially tie in with where these pairs egress over the exhaust valves.

[KiwiCol]

Probably needs an Italian Tune Up, go give her a damn good workout n see how she is after that. 

[Xdiavel]

Well I think now the oil pooling by the exhaust valves on the pistons is more likely because the bike is on its stand so nose down come to think of it.

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[Xdiavel]

As you can see there looks to be Oil pooling by the indent that looks like a hole, So there is defo an oil issue. Been had with this bike I feel. But wont let it beat me 





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