Hagon V Original Confusion

[Hooli]

Exactly... to me the standard stuff is good enough for the rest of the bike, it's never going to be a super stiff race frame for precise handling after all.

[Andre]

A set of (proper) Ohlins would be more than I paid for my bike.

Then I'd need to do the front, the brakes, the tyres, the tank and engine cases, the noisy 3rd gear...... it'd start a chain reaction I can't afford. 

I can't deny a chain reaction - but it is very controlled. Going on in the 8th year of ownership and only the devil's grandmother might know when it ends.

the noisy 3rd gear

[Speedy1959]

I'm always surprised people upgrade the suspension so much on 14s, I've never had a problem with the stock stuff.
The xgayr ohlins I had for years where too soft and bouncy though.

Guess it depends how you ride and what you're used too.

Mr Hooli,
Is it fair to say you dont really "connect" with the yamaha version of the 14?
  

[Irish in Oz]

Don't they go up in price with the piggy back things on them, but then they probably not proper one's suitable for the boy racers.

[grog]

I once paid big bucks for Marzocchi shocks for GS1000,that was expensive mistake. No travel, stupid air over gas set up, prob one reason i keep stock on 14. Bought shocks then more dollars to buy little pump to suit.They were terrible.

[Hooli]

I'm always surprised people upgrade the suspension so much on 14s, I've never had a problem with the stock stuff.
The xgayr ohlins I had for years where too soft and bouncy though.

Guess it depends how you ride and what you're used too.

Mr Hooli,
Is it fair to say you dont really "connect" with the yamaha version of the 14?
  

Tbh never tried one but if they are setup as soggy as their fake ohlins I wouldn't like it. I can't recall if they run a different shock angle, more vertical would stiffen them up compared to mounted on a 14.

[grog]

I like XJR. Great quality. Good brakes. Very planted front end, reckon they sit on road better than 14.Nowhere as good looking. IMO. Id have one no probs.

[Speedy1959]

I like XJR. Great quality. Good brakes. Very planted front end, reckon they sit on road better than 14.Nowhere as good looking. IMO. Id have one no probs.

My mate has a Yellow 2004 XJR which he offered to do a straight swap for the bike I have now!!!
I nearly swallowed my dentures!!
I bet hed do a straight swap..
Errr Noooo thanks !

[t4underc4t]

I bought my first 1400 a few months ago. Its had a few owners over the years and the front shocks have got a seized compression adjuster on the front left, on the back it came with Hagons. This bike is mainly for me and the wifey going out two up. My other bike is an R1, had it 20 years and done over 45k on it. Suspension on that was upgraded at MCT Suspension and has been fantastic.

However going from the R1 to the 1400 is like chalk and cheese! With the Hagon rear, overall the quality feels fine, it only has 3 preload settings and in the middle preload setting it feels best for solo riding. It really needs the harder preload setting for two up when the suns out, you can feel it bottoming out when riding with spirit catching a bump on a corner. On full hard preload, there is zero static sag and I really struggle to get the bike up and off the centre stand. I believe Hagon would have supplied a spring for the purchaser, I've no idea who that was, but if it was the guy I bought it from he was about 6 inches taller than me and a good few stone heavier! I think Hagon's would be better for me with a more suitable spring as there is nothing else that can be adjusted.

At the moment I'm enjoying riding it as it is, might look into some upgrades in the winter but enjoy it as it is for now.