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Started by hard road, Thursday, 08 June 2023, 10:17 PM

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hard road

replaced the "S" on the tank with a full badge, looks much better to me  ;)


hard road

better pic as we like pic's  ;) 


gsxbarmy

@hard road - Nice picture - however, you've got your rear axle fitted the wrong way around - the axle nut should be fitted on the chain/sprocket side.
Nothing to do.............all day to do it....I love retirement :lol:

hard road

Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 09 June  2023, 07:49 AM@hard road - Nice picture - however, you've got your rear axle fitted the wrong way around - the axle nut should be fitted on the chain/sprocket side.

thats how I got the bike, not had the rear wheel out yet. but does it really matter  :whatever: 

Tony Nitrous

Quote from: hard road on Friday, 09 June  2023, 07:56 AM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 09 June  2023, 07:49 AM@hard road - Nice picture - however, you've got your rear axle fitted the wrong way around - the axle nut should be fitted on the chain/sprocket side.

thats how I got the bike, not had the rear wheel out yet. but does it really matter  :whatever: 

It's different on different bikes, I think the Busa and B-King, both using similar adjusters and exactly the same wheel are different, nut left or nut right. Suzuki change it on different bikes, it makes absolutely zero difference which way you do it.  There's nothing special about the spindle, the bike doesn't know which side the nuts on.

I'm happy to be proved wrong but the spindle / nut is not going to unwind itself if you reverse it.



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hard road


Andre

Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 09 June  2023, 08:07 AMSuzuki change it on different bikes, it makes absolutely zero difference which way you do it.  There's nothing special about the spindle, the bike doesn't know which side the nuts on.


The bike doesn't know the difference but I do. The "wrong way" makes for easier chain tension adjustment.

gsxbarmy

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I cannot comment as to whether it makes a difference or not. I always work on the basis that the engineers who design cars and motorcycles know best considering they spend thousands on development of machines. Often things may seem to make no difference, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

Your bike, your choice. I was merely pointing out that as standard, the axle nut is fastened on the other side.
Nothing to do.............all day to do it....I love retirement :lol:

grog

Much easier in my world to tap thru from rhs. Also what Andre said. Otherwise makes no difference. IMO

hard road

Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 09 June  2023, 05:19 PMI cannot comment as to whether it makes a difference or not. I always work on the basis that the engineers who design cars and motorcycles know best considering they spend thousands on development of machines. Often things may seem to make no difference, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

Your bike, your choice. I was merely pointing out that as standard, the axle nut is fastened on the other side.

it really doesn't matter what side as the clamping forces are exactly the same. but in my mind suzuki got it wrong. ive spent over 45 years as a mechanic and 25 of them in bike shops, as you tighten the axle nut on some bikes the nut can move in the direction its being tightened, on the left it wants to roll backwards pulling the axle with it and putting the wheel out of line and tightening the chain. if its on the right it can't roll forward as the axle is tight up against the adjuster block.   :onya:

Tony Nitrous

Quote from: hard road on Friday, 09 June  2023, 07:05 PMit really doesn't matter what side as the clamping forces are exactly the same. but in my mind suzuki got it wrong. ive spent over 45 years as a mechanic and 25 of them in bike shops, as you tighten the axle nut on some bikes the nut can move in the direction its being tightened, on the left it wants to roll backwards pulling the axle with it and putting the wheel out of line and tightening the chain. if its on the right it can't roll forward as the axle is tight up against the adjuster block.   :onya:

Maybe they are the same engineers who did the many recalled Suzukis Reg / Rec's, Hayabusa failing subframes, many recalled front brake masters, 4 recalls on recent Kawasaki H2's, snapped GSXR frames, Honda cam chain tensioners, TL rotary dampers, and a 1000 more things. Being a factory design is hardly a guarantee of anything.  ;)
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grog

All this crap over an axle nut. Were better than that.

Tony Nitrous

Quote from: grog on Friday, 09 June  2023, 08:03 PMAll this crap over an axle nut. Were better than that.

Discussion is good, just don't take it too seriously,
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Hooli

Quote from: hard road on Friday, 09 June  2023, 07:05 PM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 09 June  2023, 05:19 PMI cannot comment as to whether it makes a difference or not. I always work on the basis that the engineers who design cars and motorcycles know best considering they spend thousands on development of machines. Often things may seem to make no difference, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

Your bike, your choice. I was merely pointing out that as standard, the axle nut is fastened on the other side.

it really doesn't matter what side as the clamping forces are exactly the same. but in my mind suzuki got it wrong. ive spent over 45 years as a mechanic and 25 of them in bike shops, as you tighten the axle nut on some bikes the nut can move in the direction its being tightened, on the left it wants to roll backwards pulling the axle with it and putting the wheel out of line and tightening the chain. if its on the right it can't roll forward as the axle is tight up against the adjuster block.   :onya:

This made me laugh, it's being tightened clockwise so the same direction on either side. It won't move unless you're not using the spanner properly.

hard road

Quote from: Hooli on Friday, 09 June  2023, 10:13 PM
Quote from: hard road on Friday, 09 June  2023, 07:05 PM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 09 June  2023, 05:19 PMI cannot comment as to whether it makes a difference or not. I always work on the basis that the engineers who design cars and motorcycles know best considering they spend thousands on development of machines. Often things may seem to make no difference, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

Your bike, your choice. I was merely pointing out that as standard, the axle nut is fastened on the other side.

it really doesn't matter what side as the clamping forces are exactly the same. but in my mind suzuki got it wrong. ive spent over 45 years as a mechanic and 25 of them in bike shops, as you tighten the axle nut on some bikes the nut can move in the direction its being tightened, on the left it wants to roll backwards pulling the axle with it and putting the wheel out of line and tightening the chain. if its on the right it can't roll forward as the axle is tight up against the adjuster block.   :onya:

This made me laugh, it's being tightened clockwise so the same direction on either side. It won't move unless you're not using the spanner properly.

it might not on the 1400 but i can assure you it does on other bikes, that was my point. ive seen this many times on other makes and bikes.  and I think 45 years as a mechanic I know how to use a spanner.

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