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Faulty Healtech Gear indicator

Started by Stevel3, Saturday, 10 September 2022, 03:32 PM

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Stevel3

Quote from: grog on Friday, 07 October  2022, 07:14 PM
Such a stuff around Mate, wish i had an answer for you. Mine and Mates been faultless for long time, just checked, 6 yrs.

Yeah but I'm not the only one, they seem to be a bit hit and miss from what I've read. Also other brands can play up as well. You wouldn't think the old technology in our bikes would be so sensitive. I'll try another earth wire to the engine and have a look at the wires around the black connector where it gets it's power from. If neither works I'll give up and remove it and just get an a sprocket.

Hooli

The old technology in our bikes tends to be more sensitive than modern stuff.

Most sensors on a 14 rely on the returning voltage on the signal wire to give the ECU information. So it's sensitive to input voltage etc. More modern stuff returns a digital signal which is more reliable.

Thinking further on your issue, I'd check the ECU connection is clean and dry as well as the other bits mentioned.

Stevel3

Quote from: Hooli on Saturday, 08 October  2022, 07:56 AM
The old technology in our bikes tends to be more sensitive than modern stuff.

Most sensors on a 14 rely on the returning voltage on the signal wire to give the ECU information. So it's sensitive to input voltage etc. More modern stuff returns a digital signal which is more reliable.

Thinking further on your issue, I'd check the ECU connection is clean and dry as well as the other bits mentioned.

Thanks Hoolie 👍

Eric GSX1400K3

Just a thought from left field Steve, have you checked the battery is charged and able to store charge properly? A failing battery can cause all sorts of gremlins, especially if only able to hold a surface charge, enough to crank and start the bike etc, but if not able to hold charge, then any voltage fluctuations will be highlighted.
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

Stevel3

Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Saturday, 08 October  2022, 11:18 AM
Just a thought from left field Steve, have you checked the battery is charged and able to store charge properly? A failing battery can cause all sorts of gremlins, especially if only able to hold a surface charge, enough to crank and start the bike etc, but if not able to hold charge, then any voltage fluctuations will be highlighted.

It is a lithium batter and the mechanic told me it was in perfect condition. I had a look at a few things this morning. First up I made an extra earth and ran it to the engine. I also checked the black connector where it gets it's power from. I also unplugged and replaced in the ecu connectors. Everything seemed to be as it should. The next thing I thought about was the trickle charger. When it's on I was getting a small tingle when touching the exhaust. Mainly only felt it with the fleshy bit of my forearm. I had another unit here so decided to swap it over while I was doing stuff near the battery. What I did find was that the wires from the battery to the connector had been extended. When I went to pull the wires back thru the frame to remove it came apart. With the new trickle charger on I can't feel the tingle anymore. I haven't ridden the bike yet but I started it up and let it idle for about 10 minutes and no F1 light. It would've come on before after a few minutes. I turned it off for 5 minutes and then ran it for 10 minutes again and still no F1 light. I'm going for a ride tomorrow so fingers crossed it might be fixed. 🤞

Eric GSX1400K3

I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

grog


Stevel3

Grrrr still happened bugger. Process of elimination, it didnt do it when on the centre stand, when I took it off the centre stand to take it for a quick ride it came on straight away again. I turned it off and restarted and it still happened. I had to get fuel and was thinking/cursing on the way to the servo. I pulled up to get fuel and played with the sidestand switch before starting up and presto no F1 light. Maybe it's got a sticking switch and isn't releasing properly and still drawing a bit of current. Maybe that and the Healtech unit both going might be enough to drag the volts down a bit. I just did a 20 minute ride and it stayed off. See how it goes but maybe I need a new sidestand switch. Certainly didn't hurt doing the other stuff anyway.

grog

Give it a good spray, contact cleaner then some Inox or Lanox. Maybe do clutch switch as well, only when you ride, both those not in play on centrestand. Just a thought.

Stevel3

Quote from: grog on Saturday, 08 October  2022, 05:43 PM
Give it a good spray, contact cleaner then some Inox or Lanox.

I'm hopeful this might have been the issue. It didn't do it when I started up again or on the ride home. It did feel sticky like it might have chain lube on it. Just gave it a good clean with inbox and put some more on to soak in a bit. Weather permitting I'm going for a ride in the morning so I'll see if it happens again.🤞

Eric GSX1400K3

A lot of road grime gets caught in the side or centre stand switches. Another one is the clutch micro switch.
I try to take one day at a time, however sometimes several days catch up with me at once.

grog


Speedy1959

Not that I know of..

I have started mine many times on the centre stand and even had it in Gera running on tickover..

Yeah, yeah I know I shouldnt....

But I did ! :stir:

grog

Inox MX4, keeps the crap out, millions of house, car uses.

Stevel3

Quote from: grog on Saturday, 08 October  2022, 06:29 PM
Inox MX4, keeps the crap out, millions of house, car uses.

Is that the one in lanolin, if so I have that one as well as the standard inox. I didn't know there was a centre stand switch either and yes I have run the bike thru the gears on the centre stand to test the gear indicator.

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