Ad Blue

[grog]

Add Blue needs to filled in many cars, trucks. Without it they just dont go. Another save the planet idea. Urea is main ingredient. Add Blue is horrible stuff, super corrosive, eats clothes, paint, destroys concrete if spilt. Doesnt do skin much good. So, because Australias biggest supplier China, has stopped exporting it here, Due to trade war, we have about 5 weeks worth left. No one has a clue how to solve this prob. Our Govt says lets  start making it here, 12 mths minimum b4 production. Lets see how this one pans out. All those transport trucks not working. Not a lot of Tesla trucks around. What a f... up.

[1AW022]

Yeah I had Rio Tinto on the phone yesterday trying to buy bulk...and when they talk bulk they mean it

Sorry... no stock

[froudy]

This could get interesting when it runs out...

[Eric GSX1400K3]

Australia will capitulate to China as per usual, will jave to give up on a few demands it has made to China and possibly agree to future concessions.

[Will14]

Add Blue needs to filled in many cars, trucks. Without it they just dont go. Another save the planet idea. Urea is main ingredient. Add Blue is horrible stuff, super corrosive, eats clothes, paint, destroys concrete if spilt. Doesnt do skin much good. So, because Australias biggest supplier China, has stopped exporting it here, Due to trade war, we have about 5 weeks worth left. No one has a clue how to solve this prob. Our Govt says lets  start making it here, 12 mths minimum b4 production. Lets see how this one pans out. All those transport trucks not working. Not a lot of Tesla trucks around. What a f... up.

I dare sat that China will restore trade links before it becomes a crisis, alternatively it is easy enough to bypass the AdBlue system so that vehicles can run without it (some of our less law abiding hauliers are at it over here) it is after all injected into the exhaust after combustion - just don't tell Greta, or maybe do tell her, the Chinese will certainly start supplying again then! 

[Irish in Oz]

A bleach to make the black smoke white.

[Will14]

A bleach to make the black smoke white.

It's all a bit of a farce really, Nissan have announced that they are going to stop making the Navara Crew Cab as they don't have an engine to meet regulations, yet Isuzu in the current D-Max Crew Cab have an engine which meets emissions without the need for AdBlue & as of April 2022 the use of red diesel will be banned with exception of agricultural, horticultural & a few other uses, so the construction industry will have to use white diesel - I'm not sure that this will reduce emissions but it will increase costs by up to 40% which will be passed on to the end user 

[Irish in Oz]

The red dye is a big pollutant.
Will I still be able to use red in my boat.

[DP1400]

My understanding is that AdBlue is a suppliment which newer diesel vehicles req. every few thousand miles - depending on the manufacturer it can differ between around 6000mls & 12000mls between top-ups. It also degrades in storage, so no point in stockpiling it.

Thank goodness I bought one of those `nasty` petrol engined cars the last time I changed ours!

[seth]

Luckily I don't need to use it any of our cars .
But I thought it was made from pig piss or some kind of animal urine .
I also I didn't know it was added to the exhaust I thought it was added before combustion.
Everyday is a school day .

[GSXKING]

The latest news I've heard & it's only rumours so far is they will bypass the system which just emits more pollution instead of capturing the particles attached to the droplets of AdBlue.
It's quite technical actually 🤔

[Tally]

My diesel beemer is pre-adblue so I don't worry about it 

[Kiwifruit]

A bleach to make the black smoke white.

Hey Hey Hey....... how discriminatory " black smoke matters"

[Will14]

The latest news I've heard & it's only rumours so far is they will bypass the system which just emits more pollution instead of capturing the particles attached to the droplets of AdBlue.
It's quite technical actually 🤔

@GSXKING To meet our emissions levels most engines have both a DPF system which consists of a particulate filter & burner which then burns the ash caught in the filter (so more fuel used to make this work-throw more in to get less out!) as well as the AdBlue system which basically consists of a storage tank for the AdBlue, an electric pump & injector. Sadly both systems can be deleted with the correct software & some welding, our fitters vans used to suffer with blocked DPF filters due to the amount of idling the vans did while the fitters were working on machines & 5mph driving on sites. It was fairly common to delete the systems when machines came up for disposal as they usually went on a boat abroad to countries with less strict rules. Both systems are fairly technical but the DPF system is probably the most technical of the two tbh

[Eric GSX1400K3]

Then there's EGR - Exhaust Gas Recirculation  where a diesel engine basically breathes its own exhaust, so the emissions get burned again to reduce particulate emissions. A Catalytic converter takes care of oxides of nitrogen and other nasties.  Not a bad idea, but the egrs get really hot, so the need cooling, usually via the engines cooling system.  They also need a control valve to proportionally open and close them depending on throttle opening and vehicle speed. When they fail, they are costly to replace, they can be deleted and mapped out of the ecu, but the worst is the build up in the intake tract and the engine internals can lead to premature engine wear and ultimately failure which means more cars to built and more materials into landfill.

I don't like ad blue because it's nasty and corrosive, and DPF also clog and require more fuel to burn them clean.

A well maintained diesel will run for 500,000km and burn cleanly.