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Started by CountyDown, Tuesday, 27 July 2021, 06:04 AM

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CountyDown

Two weeks ago I bought a GSX1400.
It came with Hagon Nitro adjustable shocks.

All seemed great until I took my girlfriend out for a spin (she isn't big) and on a couple of bumps the rear suspension bottomed out.

I've ordered an spanner to adjust the spring.

However the  finger/thumb 10 stage adjuster on the bottom for compression and rebound doesn't have figures on it only notches. (See photo)

I've tried to move the bottom adjuster but with my tiny fingers and thumb it doesn't budget.

Does anyone have any suggestions what I could use to assist in moving it to maximum or minimum so I know what's what.

All I found from the manufacturer in relation to spring preload was that spring shouldn't be tightened more than 6 full turns from delivery. (See photo)

Does anyone know the default location of the spring rings on delivery.

Del

you could try taking the weight off the rear of the bike to see if that allows adjustment - if it doesnt then a screwdriver with tape on it to try to lever them free and a few squirts of penetrating fluid

Del
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Notty

I have Hagon Nitro shocks and they bottom out quite often with just me riding  :bugga: Hagon suggested removing the rubber stops
The older I get the better I was
The problem with retirement is that you cant take a day off

CountyDown

Thanks for suggestion but I actually removed the whole spring unit from bike.
I was able to turn the dial down in the - direction but not in the + direction

I

GSXKING

Quote from: Notty on Tuesday, 27 July  2021, 06:56 AM
I have Hagon Nitro shocks and they bottom out quite often with just me riding  :bugga: Hagon suggested removing the rubber stops

Are they shorter than standard @Notty ?
GSXKING 3:^)
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grog

Doesnt sound a very good recommendation for Hagon from either posts. Pretty stupid not having numbers on adjuster. Just my thoughts.

Notty

Quote from: GSXKING on Tuesday, 27 July  2021, 05:28 PM
Quote from: Notty on Tuesday, 27 July  2021, 06:56 AM
I have Hagon Nitro shocks and they bottom out quite often with just me riding  :bugga: Hagon suggested removing the rubber stops

Are they shorter than standard @Notty ?
are you saying I am short??? yes they are an inch shorter  :rofl2:
@GSXKING
The older I get the better I was
The problem with retirement is that you cant take a day off

Mick_J

Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 27 July  2021, 05:32 PM
Doesnt sound a very good recommendation for Hagon from either posts. Pretty stupid not having numbers on adjuster. Just my thoughts.

To be fair to Hagon most shocks don't have numbers, it's usual to have a number of clicks form fully home/out.  My Suzuki is the only one with numbers, the other four rely on the owner being able to count.
Keep the rubber side down.          Mick

grog

mjgt, no numbers is fine, surely an indication of softest to hardest is necessary. I mean a stop either way. I once had same confusion on expensive Marzocchi rear units, so hard. I threw them, fitted a different brand, so easy.

KoZi

From your photo in first post, there is still a lot of place to tighten the spring - increase spring preload. Do this by turning spanner clockwise.

KoZi

Quote from: Notty on Tuesday, 27 July  2021, 06:56 AM
I have Hagon Nitro shocks and they bottom out quite often with just me riding  :bugga: Hagon suggested removing the rubber stops

Very poor suggestion... 

CountyDown

Thanks for all suggestions.

This morning I tried these little grips after coming across them at the bottom of a rarely used toolbox.

They were able to grab both sides of the bottom finger/thumb adjuster. The bonus was it also adjusted the top adjuster.

CountyDown

Quote from: KoZi on Tuesday, 27 July  2021, 10:25 PM
Quote from: Notty on Tuesday, 27 July  2021, 06:56 AM
I have Hagon Nitro shocks and they bottom out quite often with just me riding  :bugga: Hagon suggested removing the rubber stops

Thanks.

I took them down a full two turns and will see how that goes.
Very poor suggestion...

KoZi

There is special tool for spring preload. Buy it, it isn't expensive.
In your option you can damage the shock spanner

grog

Kozi, think he said hed ordered one. C Spanner im guessing. Used to come with similar style shocks in the past.

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