Rear Stand issues

[Athelstanexxx]

Bought a couple of stands for the bike, front one and rear one.
No issue with the front one since it connects below the center of the forks
Big issue with the rear one, for which a very good solution would be having chance to install lifts supports on swingarm.
Newer bikes have holes on swingarm in which you simply wire those little things and you simply hook the stand to them.
Any idea for our bike? Looking at her from the back, there is plenty of room on left for the stand hook, but right part, where the brake caliper is present, simply gives no chance for the stand to fit.
Thank you

[Snapey]

You really only need to tap a couple of holes in the swing arm to suit the thread supplied but being thin aluminium I was concerned about strength. I mounted mine using thin metal nutserts but stupidly put them in line with the chain adjusting bolts. Put yours about 10mm below the centre line.

[Irish in Oz]

For insurance reasons I think you should not make changes like that, who knows what structural changes it could make i.e. stress cracks.
But we do want we want, I just use the various brackets that came with the stand.

[seth]

I'll be fitting these
But I will not be drilling the swingarm I'll have a boss welded below the swingarm and fit to them .

[Tally]

My rear stand fits mine perfectly it has a couple of L shaped pads that sit under the swingarm,the only thing I have do is make sure the brake line doesn't foul and then lift.

[Notty]

Drilling the swing arm has been covered before, perhaps in the old forum? It was deemed not a wise move as it is hollow thin alloy? 

[Del]

This is my swing arm - it has had 2 brackets welded to it with threaded holes that I have put bobbins on - it is wider that my paddock stand so back to my old one

[Snapey]

My rear stand fits mine perfectly it has a couple of L shaped pads that sit under the swingarm,the only thing I have do is make sure the brake line doesn't foul and then lift.

I've nearly lost a couple of bikes using those L shaped pads. If you're not careful the bike slides if tightening say the axle nut. The bobbins are secure whether drilling the swing arm or welding on a lug.

Question ... What procedure would compromise the integrity of the aluminium more ... drilling an M10 hole for a nutsert or welding on a lug?

[Irish in Oz]

Question ... What procedure would compromise the integrity of the aluminium more ... drilling an M10 hole for a nutsert or welding on a lug?

I'm glad you brought up that point Snapey because in my opinion there is no difference because it may have to be approved by a qualified engineer, as it is a modification to the chassis, as I said for insurance reason after the event.

[seth]

I'd be having the boss welded where the brace meets the swingarm .
I think that'll be strong enough as will the swingarm .

[Irish in Oz]

Has it got certification.

[grog]

Interested in rear stand but not drilling or welding arm. Also not interested in sliding off L brackets. Would using a U type bracket under arm, maybe some rubber in it for packing be any good. I know nothing about paddock stands. The video someone posted about most of them being weak also concerns me. Which are good?

[Snapey]

IMO bobbins are the best way to go. With the "U" shape of the nest the bike can't go forward, backwards or sideways because the bobbins are locked in place ... providing the bobbins are secure in their placement.

So Grog ... no drilling or welding eh! There are bobbin anchors made that are either part of the chain adjuster or attach in that area. They appear to locate when the axle nut is tightened. I'll have a look but I know I've seen photo's on here.

Edit ... I'm not sure if the back wheel can be removed with these things fitted.

[grog]

Ive been using, both wheels out, centrestand for rear, jack with a bracket i made to then lift front. Open access to both ends. Seems stable. Not sure what a paddock stand would improve. Maybe better to have solid stand under front, in case jack dropped, it never has. Just wondering why i need a paddock stand. If better, will get one.

[Mick_J]

Perhaps he doesn't have a main stand, that's the only reason I can think of for having bobbins on the 14.