Corona virus general discussion thread

[VladTepes]

True, but

In the law stupidity has never been an excuse.
If it were the prisons would be mostly empty.

[KiwiCol]

Back to work for me today, actually looking forward to seeing some different walls & faces, albeit masked.

[Johno]

Back to work for me today, actually looking forward to seeing some different walls & faces, albeit masked.

The Kiwi's have done a great job crushing the pandemic.

Let's hope you can continue the process back with steady and measured progress. Keep up the good work.

[Notty]

6 weeks of lockdown now - only been out for exercise and we are so excited we have got a food delivery slot from Tesco today !! 

[grog]

Sorry for you Notty. Ive had it a million times easier.

[KiwiCol]

Sorry for you Notty. Ive had it a million times easier.

That's cos you're in the lucky country Grog & Notty's in Wales!

[Andre]

Only thing getting in the way of joy rides for me is the weather. With the exception of the state of Bavaria, biking for pleasure has not been forbidden in Germany.

[grog]

Yeah Col, i know that. I dont find living in Oz special, its just where i live, dont know anywhere else. Just feel sorry for everyone locked up. My job is classed essential, can go anywhere i choose. I can trip to work and back. I can go shopping for most everything. Can get a hair cut, go to hardware, chemist.Workmate last week end went to local waterfall walk track, police got him. Not essential, $1300 fine. I just think ive been so lucky and i feel for others not so lucky.

[VladTepes]

bad timing grog I think he'd be able to do that from this weekend.

[VladTepes]

Good to see China as honest, open and cooperative as usual in the face of the pandemic.   

China has lashed out at Scott Morrison as deserving 'a slap in the face' for trying to blame the COVID-19 pandemic on the communist state, warning any push for an independent inquiry into the virus' origins will spark a travel and trade boycott.

As diplomatic tensions escalated Tuesday night, the Department of Foreign Affairs issued a rebuke to China for leaking details of a private conversation between Australian officials and China over the threats.

But the state-controlled People's Daily accused the Prime Minister of trying to use the calls for a probe to deflect criticism over his handling of the bushfires and the coronavirus crisis.

"The deeply troubled Morrison government is anxious to find an outlet for the domestic public's anger," the People's Daily report states.

"They are using an old trick to try and blame China."

Predicting the Prime Minister's call for an independent inquiry would fail, the People's Daily said France and the United Kingdom would reject it. (I don't think they would ya know)

"This is a slap on the face which has come quickly," it warned.

State-run newspaper Global Times also lashed out in a piece headlined: Morrison's adventurism could damage China-Australia relations beyond repair.

"The Morrison administration is spearheading this malicious campaign to frame and incriminate China with groundless conjecture and outlandish fabrications," an editorial states.

"Based on unsubstantiated anecdotes and hearsay, Australia has been spreading preposterous lies accusing China of opening wet markets trading in wildlife across the country. Sensational tales, which are far from reality, are being told by media shock jocks and some politicians, who allege that bats are on menus in restaurants in China. This nonsense is stigmatising the Chinese community and the Chinese way of life. Yeah sure, far from reality... 

"This is an all-out crusade against China and Chinese culture, led by Australia."  Hyperbole, much?!

Global Times editor Hu Xijin also reportedly shared a post on Chinese social media platform Weibo comparing Australia to chewing gum.

"After the epidemic, we need to have more risk awareness when doing business with Australia and also when we send our children to study there," he wrote.

"Australia is always there, making trouble. It is a bit like chewing gum stuck on the sole of China's shoes. Sometimes you have to find a stone to rub it off."

The diplomatic war of words follows incendiary comments by the Chinese Ambassador to Australia Cheng Jingye on Monday.
In a recent interview with the Australian Financial Review, Cheng refused to concede that COVID-19 even originated in Wuhan's wet markets.

He also warned a review could spark a Chinese consumer boycott of students and tourists visiting Australia.

"The Chinese public is frustrated, dismayed and disappointed with what Australia is doing now," he said.
"I think in the long term ... if the mood is going from bad to worse, people would think
'Why should we go to such a country that is not so friendly to China? The tourists may have second thoughts.
"The parents of the students would also think whether this place which they found is not so friendly, even hostile, whether this is the best place to send their kids here.

"It is up to the people to decide. Maybe the ordinary people will say 'Why should we drink Australian wine? Eat Australian beef?'"

In response, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade secretary Frances Adamson rang the Chinese ambassador to Australia on Tuesday to complain.
However, China promptly leaked an embarrassing account of the purported comments.
Accusing Australia of trying to "cry up wine and sell vinegar", the Chinese ambassador claimed Ms Adamson played down the immediate need for an investigation.
"Secretary Adamson tried her best to defend Australia's proposal about the independent review, saying the proposal neither has political motive nor targets China," a spokesman said.
"She also admitted it is not the time to commence the review now and Australia has no details of the proposal. She further said that Australia does not want the matter to have any impact on the Australia-China relationship."

"Ambassador Cheng elaborated clearly China's relevant position, stressing that no matter what excuses the Australian side has made, the fact cannot be buried that the proposal is a political manoeuvre.

"Just as a western saying goes: Cry up wine and sell vinegar." (Anyone EVER heard this saying? )

In a strongly worded and rare public statement late on Tuesday, the Department of Foreign Affairs last night accused China of disclosing "purported details of official diplomatic exchanges."
"DFAT notes with regret that the Embassy of the People's Republic of China has issued a statement releasing purported details of official diplomatic exchanges,'' it said.
"The department will not respond by itself breaching the longstanding diplomatic courtesies and professional practices to which it will continue to adhere.
"How foreign missions engage the Australian media are matters for those missions.
"For its part, the department will continue to pursue Australia's interests with all foreign missions according to the highest standards of professionalism, courtesy and respect for our counterparts."

Trade Minister Simon Birmingham confirmed Ms Adamson had called the ambassador following the comments, but declined to reveal details.
"The government has made our displeasure with those (Mr Jingye's) remarks known," Senator Birmingham said.

The rising tensions follow Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton's confirmation that Western intelligence agencies want to probe whether or not COVID-19 accidentally escaped from a Wuhan lab.
An exclusive investigation by The Daily Telegraph revealed on Tuesday that Five Eyes intelligence agencies of Australia, Canada, NZ, UK and US, are looking closely at the work of virologist Shi Zhengli and a senior scientist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Peng Zhou.
Shi is known as "The Batwoman" of Wuhan according to colleagues, for her groundbreaking research into coronaviruses in bats.
There is a direct Australian link to the researcher's work, with the pair having previously conducted bat research in a Geelong CSIRO lab, The Daily Telegraph uncovered.
But Shi insists COVID-19 did not escape from her lab, although she feared, in the beginning, it might have been responsible.
She recently told the magazine Scientific American that she "breathed a sigh of relief when the results came back: none of the sequences matched those of the viruses her team had sampled from bat caves".
"That really took a load off my mind," she said.
"I had not slept a wink for days."

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-australia-china-lashes-out-at-scott-morrison-as-diplomatic-tensions-escalate/news-story/7cb9e3d553bf5056f63fd514422b970b

[Mick_J]

Trying not to buy anything made in china is almost impossible 

[Kiwifruit]

Not easy thats for sure. Thats why we so badly need to support our own where we can. That said l'm happy to support like minded Nations.
NZ has had and still has all its eggs in one basket, just very nervous about who is holding the basket...... !!

[GSXKING]

Western nations gave up on quality some time ago and settled for a disposable society. It was inevitable really. India is slowly taking over believe me. 
Just my two cents worth.

[MarkN]

Trying not to buy anything made in china is almost impossible 

I agree with you but I, for one, still intend to try even if it means paying more 

[Notty]

Hope lockdown ends soon - all ready to go !!