Seriously what the ?! I'm a $*** magnet !

[VladTepes]

Vlad,
   
   Secondly when you go to the Police station before you start being interviewed you are entitled in law to see the complaint made against you in its entirety. You are also entitled to see all evidence, CCTV, Dash cam etc. and any witness statements any photo's of the damage and any injuries that the claim they suffered.

No, I'm not.
I can't speak for the UK but I'd be surprised if that's the case.

In any event, here I can see evidence if it goes to court and they need to disclose all said evidence within a reasonable time prior to it going to court.
They don't need to show any evidence before questioning you or before charging you.

The law in this country is Innocent until proved guilty. I'm sure a good Solicitor would question why it took six weeks to report the incident.

Well, in this country too but the 6 week reporting delay isn't in itself any defence.

Best of luck. Plenty of chancers are trying it on.

Ta.

Only answer questions and do not elaborate.

haha yeah I can play the "I can wait as long as you want to" game as well, if they are on a fishing expedition as I suspect.
I've been on the interviewer side of that desk (well, similar desks) plenty of times.

I reckon I know what the go is here, a month and a half ago some biker has hit this dudes car. He's pissed as he didn't get the number, here goes Mike several weeks later, bloke reckons its gotta be the same bike, takes rego n reports it. Trouble is, it's the wrong bike!!!

It does sound like a crock. I can't imagine how you can hit a car and not notice it. We all know how car/bike interfaces usually go - it always comes out worse for the biker.
It could also be a case of mistaken identity. Witnesses are notoriously unreliable and can easily write down a reg number incorrectly.

[Tony Nitrous]

As I said earlier....

Someone who see's you commuting each day could easily claim it was you when it wasn't.

[GSXKING]

Vlad before you go wasting your time and $$$$$'s give Andrew a call, he wont charge for initial consult and he is as straight forward as you can get.

https://www.wisemanlawyers.com.au/

It's hearsay without any genuine evidence  .

I personally would have accepted the invite to come to my house and waste their time and not mine. 

[Tony Nitrous]

I personally would have accepted the invite to come to my house and waste their time and not mine. 

I would too.

A few months back It wasn't unusual for me to come home and have a federal police officer and two very good lawyers in the house.

[VladTepes]

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Re: Who called me a $*** magnet? True!
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So interview done and ticket fucking issued.

I can take it to court to dispute but obviously that will cost a shitload more than the modest ticket. What fucks me off though is that if i pay it that's me admitting guilt. In which case the fucking car driver will go me for the supposed damage.

All he'd tell me is that they provided a photo of my bike. A photo of damage on their car and statements from two people in the car (as if they would differ...)

He said that there was a scratch along the side of their car. I don't even see how that could happen. There's nothing protruding to scratch the car with. The only thing possible would be the handlebars but I certainly would have noticed that as it would probably have tipped me off it or at the very least have upset the balance of the bike causing a sphincter tightening moment.

The interview was written in the guys notebook and recorded on body recorder.
I'm not allowed to see any of the evidence or get a copy of the interview in any form unless I elect to contest it in court.. And if I do that then its too late to pay the fine.

I don't blame the copper but the system is a bit fucked when being able to contest it requires$$$ and time away from work... Obviously an incentive for most people not to contest tickets.

Except for the shitbags who get legal aid and don't go to work...

OK I've vented. Just need to climb down from this high horse...

[KiwiCol]

That's absolute shit Mike. You're stuck between a rock & a poor place.   Wonder if we have any lawyer members (in Aussie) that could help.

[Notty]

That really sucks Mike 

[grog]

Vlad, stay on high horse. Something wrong, cant see evidence? Im sort of in same boat. At job last week and car working on door blew open, hit car next to it. All i could see was paint from worked on car on other car. It all came off with some wd40, not even polish. Owner says its dented. My eyes are old but no scratch or dent. 2003 Commodore, worth around $1000. Filthy dirty, not pristine by any means. Piece of crap i reckon. End result. They got quote for $1000 or i pay excess of $600 for insurance claim. Talk about being robbed, i reckon i am. Nothing i can do except pay. Sometimes life really sux.   

[Andre]

My dad was in a similar situation. Fought it in court and lost. Cost him 13k.

[MarkN]

I had a similar experience years ago when I was in a car and was overtaken on a pedestrian crossing. The offending vehicle collided with the offside of my car, nearly pushing me into a parked car on the other side of the crossing. He then fucked off. Two years later, after pursuing it through the insurance company, he came up with a witness who said I had pulled out from between two parked cars into his path - so why didn't he stop!

Could anyone say you were elsewhere at the time this supposedly took place?
Is there anyway you could find out who he is and get someone to pay him a visit - if you get my drift - if all else fails

[gsxbarmy]

Hard to comment from the UK when we don't know the legal position down under Mike, but in the first instance I would take the opportunity to consult a local solicitor to check options, as it seems to be his word against yours under some very strange and suspicious circumstances.

In the UK we can take out Legal Protection with our insurance policies, not sure if you have the same options in Aus?

[MarkN]

Vlad, just to qualify my last, I'm not suggesting that you get someone to provide a false alibi just that you must have been elsewhere at the time and my very last remark was obviously tongue in cheek, but personally I would be loath to pay up when this is obviously someone trying to scam you. As already suggested at least seek some legal advice before paying the ticket.
If accepting responsibility leaves you open to civil action this could be more expensive than going to court. Professional advice required I think.
Good luck mate

[VladTepes]

Yeah I got that was tongue in cheek mate

[VladTepes]

Vlad before you go wasting your time and $$$$$'s give Andrew a call, he wont charge for initial consult and he is as straight forward as you can get.
https://www.wisemanlawyers.com.au/

Just now left a message for them to get back to me.

I contacted the lawyer I'd used before who did a  business contract for me.
For thsi driving thing she wants $220 for an initial consultation then a 'ballpark' figure of $1100 for attending court across road from her office.
And then there's the cost of actually preparing a defence etc, and she qon;r quote that until after an initial consult...
Yeah no.

[VladTepes]

Well @GSXKING et al,

I can understand it may be worth the $ for people who are facing jail time etc as is the case for quite a few clients that Andrew Wiseman defends, but for me I simply cannot afford to think about it.

He operates on an all-inclusive fixed-price model.. that price being $6,350 !

So yeah, no :(



Looks like I'll have to pay the fucking thing, admitting guilt for something I didn't do.